Wtf...!?
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From: the desert
With bolt-ons? No. Unless I had a magically special Lancer that didn't make power while everyone else has the normal model that makes power, it's pretty same to assume that if another Lancer follows my mod path, they'll get the same results. This is a fairly fundamental principle of science. I have said over and over and over again that when you turbo the car, it's a completely different story. You can make decent power quite easily with a turbo. On topic however, we've gone through what, 10 pages now and we still haven't gotten an answer as to where the 420 WHP number came from. That's all I want to know but apparently that makes me a hater and requires some massive discussion about me as a person and as a moderator and necessitates digging up my results from 2 years ago.
those are not facts+ you still didnt get a tune so how would we know what your numbers really were.
this was blacksheeps, his mods were different than yours.
Date: June 22, 2004
Max HP: 93.2hp @ 5750rpms
Max TQ: 95.8tq @ 4250rpms
Dyno Used: Mustang
Facility: Mustang Dynamometer - Twinsburg, Ohio
Temperature: 75
Octane: 87
Modifications: Buschur SRI, downpipe, high flow cat
RRM axleback
Magnacor wires
Notes: Pull was done in 4th gear. Exhaust leak could have affected numbers.
this was blacksheeps, his mods were different than yours.
Date: June 22, 2004
Max HP: 93.2hp @ 5750rpms
Max TQ: 95.8tq @ 4250rpms
Dyno Used: Mustang
Facility: Mustang Dynamometer - Twinsburg, Ohio
Temperature: 75
Octane: 87
Modifications: Buschur SRI, downpipe, high flow cat
RRM axleback
Magnacor wires
Notes: Pull was done in 4th gear. Exhaust leak could have affected numbers.
What did a stock Lancer do on the dyno Blacksheep used? We're within 6 WHP of each other.
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Joined: Jan 2008
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From: the desert
Do you really think that a tune would have made a massive difference, at least enough that it would have made the thousands spent worthwhile? What do you think I would have gained, 20 WHP?
What did a stock Lancer do on the dyno Blacksheep used? We're within 6 WHP of each other.
What did a stock Lancer do on the dyno Blacksheep used? We're within 6 WHP of each other.
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From: the desert
Let's use some logic. I know, I know, logic has no place on a car forum but entertain me this idea. My AF graph was identical to the stock lancer, identical. This means the mods I did didn't have any affect on the stock tune. Logically this means the changes that could be made to my tune could also be made to the stock Lancer. Now then, I had the ability to take in a bit more air and expel a bit more exhaust gases as evident by my higher HP number. This would translate to a bit more power after a tune. Given that these are 120 crank HP cars and on this dyno 83 WHP cars, if we assume that the max gain would be 10% (a big gain for just a tune on an NA 4-banger), we arrive at a max gain of 8 WHP.
Again, where did the original claim of 420 WHP come from? This is the point that virtually everyone is missing. There is this number floating around but where the hell did it come from?
This thread is a waste of time, I didn't start it and it wasn't about my car so I don't see the point in discussing my dyno results or anything else about me. It's going around in circles and frankly I don't have the time to deal with it and it's not productive for anyone (since we've now burned through 3 pages today alone).
If the person with this car wants to start a new thread, they can. If people want to continue this particular discussion, take it to PMs.
If the person with this car wants to start a new thread, they can. If people want to continue this particular discussion, take it to PMs.