Ok, first off i am new to the forums and first thread. So hi, welcome to any kind of comment.

Ok, now to my question. I have done some searching around the forums for slave/tob solutions. Just need a little more clarification on certain things. I have a significant decrease in pressure of the clutch pedal whenever i am on the highway and i need to slow down to get off the highway. It will not go into gear, so by pumping the clutch, I can finally down shift and get it into gear. By doing this, does this cause harm to the clutch? I haven't tried to bleed the system yet, but i haven't disconnected anything and i have made sure all hosess are secured tightly. From what it seems like is that the tob/slave are about ready to go. Now, from what i understand, the tob/slave are the same assembly? So, in that case, would it be a good idea to just get a brand new clutch with the tob/slave and a new flywheel? Or would it be necessary just for the tob/slave assembly. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Oh and its a 2002 ES, 5spd, with 102,200 miles on it. Thanks again!

 

Welcome aboard.

As you mentioned, tob and slave cylinder are in fact 1 piece.
Should you change the clutch while you're at it? It really depends. Mine was soaked with tranny fluid, but if it would have been dry, I'd have kept it since there was still plenty of life left in it...

If you do the work your-self, or can afford to have you car on the hoist for a few days, I'd suggest you assest the situation once you're in there. Once you've got your clutch and misc parts laying in front of you, you'll be able to make a better decision has to wether or not you should buy such or such part.

 

Hey thanks!

Yea i read your post about your's. And i would hate for that to happen to mine. I just didn't know if it was absolutely necessary to change the clutch, flywheel if you wanted to change the tob/slave. What about hurting the clutch by pumping it to get pressure back in it to shift? Does that hurt anything or cause severe stress on the clutch/flywheel/etc.? Thanks for all of your help!

 

No prob. Some will tell you to do everything all at once. I say go with your budget and change only what needs to be changed.

I don't know about hurting the clutch when pumping. I can't see why it would damage anything, but I can't offer the greatest advice on that one.

 

Cool, well from studying your pics on your post, it's pretty obvious that i would need to take the transmission off of the motor just to get to the tob/slave...is it very hard to get to the tob/slave after the tranny is removed? and do i need to drain the tranny to do this? And, i'm sure there is a write up somewhere that i have probably looked over or just not looked hard enough for, i have jacks and stands...no lift so...should this be wise of me to do or should i just take it somewhere to get it done? I just don't want to get charged an arm and a leg for it ya know? If it isn't too terribly hard to do, i'll probably consider doing it with a couple of buddies. Thanks for your info blaze.

 

When my tranny gave up I had the work done by a guy I know who has everything in his backyard (including hoist, more tools than most stores would carry and all). So I'm not 100% about the procedure.

I don't think you need to get the whole tranny out of the car in order to get to the clutch and tob. If I'm not mistaken, the tob sits right on the clutch, so you'd only have to take the clutch housing off the tranny. There aren't any "how to" available for that yet.

I'll know more about it in about 2 weeks, since I'll be taking my transmission out of the car again. Mine was rebuilt(more like patched), and I sourced a trans in great condition for very little $$$. This time I'll be doing the work my-self.

I've got the shop manuals at my place. I'll see if I can scan a few pages for you.

 

ok i wasn't sure if taking off the whole tranny or i guess just the clutch housing. Let me know how it goes with your install. I'll get with one of my buddies and try to see if we can tackle it this weekend. I'll keep you posted. Thanks again blaze

 

When I replaced my clutch from RRM (ACT stage 2). I, too, did not realize that it came without the tob. I had to take the transmition apart, but I did it at my buddy's garage where we had a lift available and all the tools. I lowered the transmition and splitted it in half so I had access to the pressure plate and the clutch. Good luck with it.

P.S. I just called RRM to see if they sell throw out bearings only. They said YES. They will email me with price. But my car is making weard noises from transmition, but I don't have problems similar to yours. I'll let you know how much it will run from them. Although, they said you can use any tob, reason I'm going with RRM is because I ordered in the past from them and they provide great help when needed.

 

So you can pop the TOB out of the slave and put in a new one? That's nice to know

 

sure can. You still need to take the tranny apart. but its managebale

 

Well, thanks for the info lox. Guys, i was coming home from work and getting off the highway. I went to press the clutch pedal...and no pressure wtf!!! so i pumped it and got pressure back...but this is starting to become a huge issue. I am ordering one tonight...i just know that i'm going to be driving one day and not going to be able to get pressure back...which is going to suck. Thanks guys, for your help!

 

So i got ahold of a local shop to see how much it would cost for a new slave cylinder and tob, and he said that it would be about 960. He said that he added a clutch into that price. I have an uncle who can get me the part cheap (brand new) and the guy said he do it for 360...plus no warranty. Which i can understand the no warranty part. But damn...is that a normal pricing for something like that? It would be so much easier if i had ability to do it myself

 

Yeah, that's a good price. It's a lot of work to get at the clutch (single worst install, no matter what car I've done it on).

 

Ok, well i might be in luck. A guy that I work with over heard me cussing about my clutch. And he said his brother works at a clutch shop and does jobs on the side all the time. So he gave him a call and he said that he would do it no problem. So compared to having it done for 960, i'm getting everything done for a little under 500 (including parts) next weekend. I'm going to help him do it, so what i'll do is try and do a write up of everything we do (and pics).

I haven't seen a write up yet, so this could a good contribution on my part to the forums. Thanks guys for all of your help and info!