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Trans swap?
Will it work if i have the TC-SST? also ive never read up on autos and never had one... does the tranny have its own ECU and if so would that be the only extra thing I would need for the swap?
Would this work without have a driveshaft?
(Future plans do include AWD w/Ralliart rear end and Turbocharger for anyone wondering)
Also what are the weights of the CVT and TC-SST?
Would this work without have a driveshaft?
(Future plans do include AWD w/Ralliart rear end and Turbocharger for anyone wondering)
Also what are the weights of the CVT and TC-SST?
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So you want to pretty much put a ralliart into ur car? I would say mechanically itll work, but electronically u might have problems. I'm pretty sure that the Engine ECU and the Tranny ECU are synced together. Not sure if there are any other modules that need to communicate to the two in order for it to work. Personally, I don't think its worth the effort, better off trading in for the ralliart. Especially since you can only get it as an automatic.
Stick to Manual...way more fun
Stick to Manual...way more fun
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lol dude your project consists of id say about 15,000$+ so basically your spending the cost of another car just to have turbo and AWD. if you have a lancer you dont have the SST, you would need the ecu redone, find a AWD system thats not damaged, find a turbo (might as well do a swap) and so much more its ridiculous in the long run its totally not worth another car..save your money and get a ralliart in the long run you'll save thousands.. you would have a reliable new car with a warranty instead of an unreliable car with no warranty.
and the SST is a lot diff than the CVT in short the CVT has no gears..its just a belt that stretches it just simulates gears, which is why you never hear it shift when in D mode. the SST is actually gears and is a hell of a lot stronger than the CVT..totally different machines.
and the SST is a lot diff than the CVT in short the CVT has no gears..its just a belt that stretches it just simulates gears, which is why you never hear it shift when in D mode. the SST is actually gears and is a hell of a lot stronger than the CVT..totally different machines.
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well i got the car under the $-4-clunkers program. so I couldnt get the RA at the time due to mpg.
I was hoping to turbo the car anyway. and I know the CVT sucks and I want an car that is streetable with 400hp AWD. I want to stick with the 2.4 L and I want the twin clutch auto and REAL GEARS!
I know my best bet is to find a wrecked ra. and thats what i hope to do. money isnt a major concern. Its better to have a wicked GTS (if thats what you would call it then) than to trade it in and increase my note and insurance.
Just an idea thats flying around in my mind
I was hoping to turbo the car anyway. and I know the CVT sucks and I want an car that is streetable with 400hp AWD. I want to stick with the 2.4 L and I want the twin clutch auto and REAL GEARS!
I know my best bet is to find a wrecked ra. and thats what i hope to do. money isnt a major concern. Its better to have a wicked GTS (if thats what you would call it then) than to trade it in and increase my note and insurance.
Just an idea thats flying around in my mind
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Will it work if i have the TC-SST? also ive never read up on autos and never had one... does the tranny have its own ECU and if so would that be the only extra thing I would need for the swap?
Would this work without have a driveshaft?
(Future plans do include AWD w/Ralliart rear end and Turbocharger for anyone wondering)
Also what are the weights of the CVT and TC-SST?
Would this work without have a driveshaft?
(Future plans do include AWD w/Ralliart rear end and Turbocharger for anyone wondering)
Also what are the weights of the CVT and TC-SST?
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well i got the car under the $-4-clunkers program. so I couldnt get the RA at the time due to mpg.
I was hoping to turbo the car anyway. and I know the CVT sucks and I want an car that is streetable with 400hp AWD. I want to stick with the 2.4 L and I want the twin clutch auto and REAL GEARS!
I know my best bet is to find a wrecked ra. and thats what i hope to do. money isnt a major concern. Its better to have a wicked GTS (if thats what you would call it then) than to trade it in and increase my note and insurance.
Just an idea thats flying around in my mind
I was hoping to turbo the car anyway. and I know the CVT sucks and I want an car that is streetable with 400hp AWD. I want to stick with the 2.4 L and I want the twin clutch auto and REAL GEARS!
I know my best bet is to find a wrecked ra. and thats what i hope to do. money isnt a major concern. Its better to have a wicked GTS (if thats what you would call it then) than to trade it in and increase my note and insurance.
Just an idea thats flying around in my mind
Unless you want to **** all the money down the drain in the event of an accident, you have to tell your insurance company that will undoubtedly increase your premium anyways.
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well i got the car under the $-4-clunkers program. so I couldnt get the RA at the time due to mpg.
I was hoping to turbo the car anyway. and I know the CVT sucks and I want an car that is streetable with 400hp AWD. I want to stick with the 2.4 L and I want the twin clutch auto and REAL GEARS!
I know my best bet is to find a wrecked ra. and thats what i hope to do. money isnt a major concern. Its better to have a wicked GTS (if thats what you would call it then) than to trade it in and increase my note and insurance.
Just an idea thats flying around in my mind
I was hoping to turbo the car anyway. and I know the CVT sucks and I want an car that is streetable with 400hp AWD. I want to stick with the 2.4 L and I want the twin clutch auto and REAL GEARS!
I know my best bet is to find a wrecked ra. and thats what i hope to do. money isnt a major concern. Its better to have a wicked GTS (if thats what you would call it then) than to trade it in and increase my note and insurance.
Just an idea thats flying around in my mind
If you keep the 2.4L, are you goin to lower the compression ratio for the turbo? I autox with alot of miata drivers and when some have added turbos they usually replace the 1997+ cylinder head with a 1991 thru 1996 cylinder head to lower the compression ratio of the motor. I know there are some aftermarket turbo kits for the 2.4, i'm just not sure the engine is getting all the hp it can out of them. Also not sure what is being done to minimize autoignition.
I won't say you can't do it b/c with enough money you can do anything you want. Just some things I think you should think about. If you go thru with it good luck.
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I do mean bhp. And if there arent enough upgrades for the trans to handle the power by the time (if ever) i do reach my goal ill spend my billions on getting a 5-speed in there lmao. i know hks is trying to figure out how to beef up the sst. and i have seen plenty of articles about 350+hp 4g63s. I do know 50-100k will be dropped into a build like this but its what i like. and as for the drivetrain minus the trans the FQ400 handles 401 hp just fine >.o.
I know it wont be like OEM and dont expect it to be.
and yes i would be lowering my compression to run more boost. 4 cyl and autos arent my strong point. both are new to me. i do read a quite few "tuner" mags but in no way am i saying im even barely knowledgeable about the subject. Im used to slamming gears and pretty decent bolt on hp coming from a v8.
I do appreciate the help and advice as well as knowledge you are both giving me though
I know it wont be like OEM and dont expect it to be.
and yes i would be lowering my compression to run more boost. 4 cyl and autos arent my strong point. both are new to me. i do read a quite few "tuner" mags but in no way am i saying im even barely knowledgeable about the subject. Im used to slamming gears and pretty decent bolt on hp coming from a v8.
I do appreciate the help and advice as well as knowledge you are both giving me though
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If you are seriously considering this, you should look into getting a front clip from Japan. They salvage perfectly good cars from there all the time. With a front clip you would have all the necessary pieces from an RA or EVO depending on which you decide to get the parts from. the other nice thing about this, is that since the body is the same for all 3 versions, minus the extra welds in the EVO, you would pretty much be stripping every major component from your car and replacing it with the donor materials. I was considering doing an EVO swap into my GTS after the warranty, and engine pretty much gives up, whenever that happens to be. Part of that I am also planning on converting to right side drive.
As for the TC-SST, I agree with jer301 on that one. Since the EVO is using the same tranny, and the FQ-400 in the UK is pushing 400 crank, I would say that the tranny is good to ~450. Besides, how often are you actually gonna get your engine to that much power, unless you are racing it, i doubt u ever get to 75% pk power as a dd.
As for the TC-SST, I agree with jer301 on that one. Since the EVO is using the same tranny, and the FQ-400 in the UK is pushing 400 crank, I would say that the tranny is good to ~450. Besides, how often are you actually gonna get your engine to that much power, unless you are racing it, i doubt u ever get to 75% pk power as a dd.
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whp is not the concern with the TC-SST transmission. Torque is the killer. For more information about this transmission there is a section dedicated to it under the evo x drivetrain... You will learn a lot about hte transmission and the work that is being done to it.
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I do mean bhp. And if there arent enough upgrades for the trans to handle the power by the time (if ever) i do reach my goal ill spend my billions on getting a 5-speed in there lmao. i know hks is trying to figure out how to beef up the sst. and i have seen plenty of articles about 350+hp 4g63s. I do know 50-100k will be dropped into a build like this but its what i like. and as for the drivetrain minus the trans the FQ400 handles 401 hp just fine >.o.
I know it wont be like OEM and dont expect it to be.
and yes i would be lowering my compression to run more boost. 4 cyl and autos arent my strong point. both are new to me. i do read a quite few "tuner" mags but in no way am i saying im even barely knowledgeable about the subject. Im used to slamming gears and pretty decent bolt on hp coming from a v8.
I do appreciate the help and advice as well as knowledge you are both giving me though
I know it wont be like OEM and dont expect it to be.
and yes i would be lowering my compression to run more boost. 4 cyl and autos arent my strong point. both are new to me. i do read a quite few "tuner" mags but in no way am i saying im even barely knowledgeable about the subject. Im used to slamming gears and pretty decent bolt on hp coming from a v8.
I do appreciate the help and advice as well as knowledge you are both giving me though
The FQ-400 is a professionally built car that costs a reported 70000$+. It also uses the 5-speed transmission, not the TC-SST. It has a lot of other mods as well.
You freely admit that you don't know much on the subject. You have a lot of reading and research ahead because at the moment, it seems like your only goal is to **** your money away on a silly and useless project.
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If you are seriously considering this, you should look into getting a front clip from Japan. They salvage perfectly good cars from there all the time. With a front clip you would have all the necessary pieces from an RA or EVO depending on which you decide to get the parts from. the other nice thing about this, is that since the body is the same for all 3 versions, minus the extra welds in the EVO, you would pretty much be stripping every major component from your car and replacing it with the donor materials. I was considering doing an EVO swap into my GTS after the warranty, and engine pretty much gives up, whenever that happens to be. Part of that I am also planning on converting to right side drive.
As for the TC-SST, I agree with jer301 on that one. Since the EVO is using the same tranny, and the FQ-400 in the UK is pushing 400 crank, I would say that the tranny is good to ~450. Besides, how often are you actually gonna get your engine to that much power, unless you are racing it, i doubt u ever get to 75% pk power as a dd.
As for the TC-SST, I agree with jer301 on that one. Since the EVO is using the same tranny, and the FQ-400 in the UK is pushing 400 crank, I would say that the tranny is good to ~450. Besides, how often are you actually gonna get your engine to that much power, unless you are racing it, i doubt u ever get to 75% pk power as a dd.
From what I can tell, the Evo has a pretty dramatically different body. It can fit far wider tires than the Ralliart or the GTS indicating wider fenders. How is he going to replace all four fenders?
Please don't spread false information, it leads to people following that information and ending up in bad situations.
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The EVO has the following dims:
Wheel Base: 104.3"
Track Width: 60.8"
The RA and Lancer dims:
Wheel Base: 103.7"
Track Width: 60.2"
The EVO drivetrain, suspension, won't fit w/o some serious body work and machining. $$$$$$$$
IMO:
Want an EVO. Buy an EVO.
Want a RA. Buy a RA.
Still if you want to do this, there is alot to consider.
Wheel Base: 104.3"
Track Width: 60.8"
The RA and Lancer dims:
Wheel Base: 103.7"
Track Width: 60.2"
The EVO drivetrain, suspension, won't fit w/o some serious body work and machining. $$$$$$$$
IMO:
Want an EVO. Buy an EVO.
Want a RA. Buy a RA.
Still if you want to do this, there is alot to consider.
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From what I have read, the unibody is the same. If you have the same unibody, then u should be able to mix and match parts. How much you would need to mix and match all depends...thats y i said u need a donor car. If anyone ends up in a bad situation its their OWN fault. You should always research any project you are about to undertake.
Also, last i read, the FQ400 is modified in the UK for the UK...to me this means it is not a part of the Corporate Mitsubishi Lineup. Besides, the FQ-400 to me seems like a quick and dirty tune to get more money. Pretty much bigger turbo, bigger intercooler, bigger exaust system and high-flow fuel injectors with a tune. Somehow that doesnt seem enough to me to bring the price from 32k to 79k. There are evos out there pushin 1100whp. I'd love to know how much they put into their cars to compare to the FQ-400.
Also, last i read, the FQ400 is modified in the UK for the UK...to me this means it is not a part of the Corporate Mitsubishi Lineup. Besides, the FQ-400 to me seems like a quick and dirty tune to get more money. Pretty much bigger turbo, bigger intercooler, bigger exaust system and high-flow fuel injectors with a tune. Somehow that doesnt seem enough to me to bring the price from 32k to 79k. There are evos out there pushin 1100whp. I'd love to know how much they put into their cars to compare to the FQ-400.