ROAD/RACE- Stage 2 Cam.
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ROAD/RACE- Stage 2 Cam.
We dida custom cam for one of our customers. THe ffedback we got from it was very good. Based on what we learned from us we can go one better even. How many guys are interested in a Stge 2 cam? I do not dynos yet but we know from customer dyno Stage 1 was 11+ h.p. This can should be closer to 15. Give me some feedback so I know what to do. Maybe a group buy price thing is the right way to go here.
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It can be used for any application. I currently have the first stage 2 and testing it. It works great......has a strong pull pritty much no matter where you are on the RPM range. Once mivec kicks in it goes like a bat out of hell. But also i have just about everything for NA set up. If anyone has any questions you can PM me about the cam. Thanks.
-Steve Owner of S.S.Performance
-Steve Owner of S.S.Performance
Like I said before, at the low boost levels we are all seeing from the RRM kit and custom kits spool up is going to be pretty quick no matter what. the question is that the cam is good for NA and turbo, which is subjective to many more conditions.
If they've started messing with the low and mid range lobes you are gonna affect spool up a little bit. Until Rob decides to come up off some specs
we will have to assume from the previous comments that overlap was added with the increased duration and lift on the lower end lobes (loping at idle
).
turbo likes less overlap generally speaking, and while modifying the mivec lobes let's you keep your changes in overlap up in the RPM's, modifying the low and mid range lobes for an NA car will require more overlap while the turbo would spool quicker with less overlap at these lower RPM's.
I'm not sure how this would relate on an engine that has barely seen 12 psi yet, but let's not throw a blanket over it and call it universal without getting actual results or feedback from a cam specialist. the cam is one of the most complex parts of the engine as far as being application specific, so testing is essential before you assume results.
If they've started messing with the low and mid range lobes you are gonna affect spool up a little bit. Until Rob decides to come up off some specs
we will have to assume from the previous comments that overlap was added with the increased duration and lift on the lower end lobes (loping at idleturbo likes less overlap generally speaking, and while modifying the mivec lobes let's you keep your changes in overlap up in the RPM's, modifying the low and mid range lobes for an NA car will require more overlap while the turbo would spool quicker with less overlap at these lower RPM's.
I'm not sure how this would relate on an engine that has barely seen 12 psi yet, but let's not throw a blanket over it and call it universal without getting actual results or feedback from a cam specialist. the cam is one of the most complex parts of the engine as far as being application specific, so testing is essential before you assume results.
^^ Dan you know Rob isn't coming off of his specs.....he is after all running a business. 
I agree...the only person who would be able to call it "universal" would be Rob after they test it out some more and get feedback from both turbo and NA applications. Will probably take some time....as all R&D does (especially with the low number of RA's out there).

I agree...the only person who would be able to call it "universal" would be Rob after they test it out some more and get feedback from both turbo and NA applications. Will probably take some time....as all R&D does (especially with the low number of RA's out there).
^^ Dan you know Rob isn't coming off of his specs.....he is after all running a business. 
I agree...the only person who would be able to call it "universal" would be Rob after they test it out some more and get feedback from both turbo and NA applications. Will probably take some time....as all R&D does (especially with the low number of RA's out there).

I agree...the only person who would be able to call it "universal" would be Rob after they test it out some more and get feedback from both turbo and NA applications. Will probably take some time....as all R&D does (especially with the low number of RA's out there).
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It is a universal upgrade cam. I did not want to invest in a NA/ or TURBO speicific camshaft. As for lobes , we are still working on MIVEC lobes so spoolup should not change at all. Eclipse2Lancer, you of all guys need this one.
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