Rear Tie Bars!!
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heres another installed pic on my car. like i said before, it may not be the purdiest and fancy piece on the market, its performance out-values any bling factor you could ever want. that and .. you can't really see it from behind unless ya look under the car.
big ups to engineerboy - I love my tie bar!
big ups to engineerboy - I love my tie bar!
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Good question... I don't think so.... IIRC the two bolts for the rear arms go through a rubber bushing- this then keeps the arms from separating... I'll double check in the morning
Steve? Any alignment differences that were noticable? I'll check with Urbanknight the resident alignment expert to verify.
Steve? Any alignment differences that were noticable? I'll check with Urbanknight the resident alignment expert to verify.
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Originally Posted by engineerboy
Good question... I don't think so.... IIRC the two bolts for the rear arms go through a rubber bushing- this then keeps the arms from separating... I'll double check in the morning
Steve? Any alignment differences that were noticable? I'll check with Urbanknight the resident alignment expert to verify.
Steve? Any alignment differences that were noticable? I'll check with Urbanknight the resident alignment expert to verify.
when I bought the car on my test drive, I could let go of the steering wheel and have it go perfectly straight.
when I added my front strut bar, I could let go of the steering wheel and have it go perfectly straight.
now, after adding the rear lower tie bar, I can let go of the steering wheel and have it go perfectly straight and not pull or move one way or the other.
I checked the rubber on the tires and it was an even wear, no abnormal wear on one side or the other. i'm not sure how ya define the word alignment, but I haven't noticed anything that, to me, would suggest it has thrown off the alignment. if someone wants to pay for me to go get it checked, i'll be more than happy!
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Question - I'll probably put mine on tomorrow. How do you jack the car up for install? Should I jack it up using the side points, so that the suspension is free? That seems like the best system (off the top of my head).
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I use my floor jack with a block on it. I also use a piece of rubber floor mat on top of the block to protect the underside of the car (with my jack I'm only adding about 3" of block to let the jack get to the required height).
Otherwise, yeah, jack from the sides and hold with stands Please be careful!!
Otherwise, yeah, jack from the sides and hold with stands Please be careful!!
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as for installing... are the nuts or the bolts on the side where we are attaching... i would assume that if its the bolts, wouldn't it be a pain to get htem out wthout the arm wanting to fall out of place?
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Originally Posted by Blacksheepdj
Question - I'll probably put mine on tomorrow. How do you jack the car up for install? Should I jack it up using the side points, so that the suspension is free? That seems like the best system (off the top of my head).
I also used a pneumatic impact wrench to both get the bolts off and put them back on. I tried for a while with sockets, a breaker bar and a normal pneumatic air wrench and couldn't get em off .. the impact wrench got em off in no time. Not to say it cant be done without the impact wrench, thats just what i used.
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Originally Posted by psionic98
is it really that rough to get the nuts off the rear suspension... I wanna get one, but I don't have any type of impact wrench...
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Definitely let the arms hang.
If you don't have an impact wrench, and you plan on doing more than installing a tie bar, I'd recommend picking up an electric one. Harbor Freight tools has them for $60 normally, but I've seen them as low as $40. I like harbor freight. What you're not paying for with these harbor freight tools is the sound deadening insulation that the "real" tools have. At least that's been the only real difference I've been able to notice. I was ear protection at all times anyway, so a few extra dB from a tool isn't very noticeable
Also some auto parts stores have started carrying common automotive tools (like elec impact wrenches, drills, heat guns and the like) for about the same price.
If you don't have an impact wrench, and you plan on doing more than installing a tie bar, I'd recommend picking up an electric one. Harbor Freight tools has them for $60 normally, but I've seen them as low as $40. I like harbor freight. What you're not paying for with these harbor freight tools is the sound deadening insulation that the "real" tools have. At least that's been the only real difference I've been able to notice. I was ear protection at all times anyway, so a few extra dB from a tool isn't very noticeable
Also some auto parts stores have started carrying common automotive tools (like elec impact wrenches, drills, heat guns and the like) for about the same price.