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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 09:37 PM
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CupOZ, Im glad you said the Lancer eminds you of the IS. I was beginning to think I was the only one who thought that. I loved that car sooooo much. I had a great deal on one a while back, basically because it was yellow and had cloth interior. (as the salesman said, who comes into a Lexus dealership wanting a yellow car with cloth???) Unfortunately I had to pass. When I saw the Lancer, I immediately thought of the IS. So that led me to the purchase of the OZ. I had to laugh when one of my relatives bought a IS in the same color as my OZ though. Well laugh and cry. Anyhow, Ive driven her car many times and can say that it is one of my favorite cars. Actually Id take her car or any of her husbands cars. He has a 2001 Vette and a WRX for winter driving......I should be so lucky,lol.
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 10:18 PM
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i have yet to find a flaw with the IS300.....and have really yet to find a flaw with my lancer. for the price, i think it is the best car out there. i ****ing LOVE my lancer, sometimes my girlfriend gets very jealous
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 10:32 PM
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the IS300 comes in 2 models I4 (3SGTE) found in the celica and I6 (2JZGE). and also the 2JZ family engines have been in a lot of the toyota cars. Supra, IS300, GS300. i hear that the new IS300 is getting the GS430's V6 300HP for 2003 going up with the BMW's M3. it is going tobe a good fight
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 10:36 PM
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wouldn't it no longer be an IS300 anymore, and therefor be an IS430?

and isn't the gs430 a 4.3 liter v8?

I think the IS300 that comes with a I4 is actually an IS200.

see those numbers after the letters specify the size of the engine. a 3.0 liter inline 4 is quite big....as a 4.3 liter v6 is kinda big too.

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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 11:05 PM
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i mess up, your right about the GS430 cupOZnj, the IS300 is going to use that engine but also keeps its name. no change in name but a big change in power. Something about Toyota is they love using one engine one many cars. like the 2JZ supra, IS300, GS300 and SC300

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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 11:10 PM
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Wait, the US sees the 4 banger JDM engine from the Altezza? I thought we only saw the 6'er here in the US?
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 11:17 PM
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the I6 Altezza is in the States not the I4 Altezza. but the engine is here the 3S family that toyota us in the celica the last gen not the 2002 they run the 2ZZ-GE. just leting you know the new MR2 runs a corolla engine 1ZZ-FE

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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 07:14 AM
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You don't need to do a swap necessarily. It's the NA version of the same engine if I'm not mistaken just like the 350z runs an NA version of the Skyline's. I can never remember their wacky engine codes.

EDIT: And let me just add that I may very well be mistaken.
The IS300 does run the 2JZ-GE. But all the turbo kits are made for the 2JZ-GTE unfortuently they are too different to convert a turbo kit to work. Also if you want the supra 6-speed tranny (and who wouldn't?) you need the 2JZ-GTE.

As for the 350 using the skyline engine you are wrong. The skyline uses the RB26BETT which is a straight-six configuration. The 350Z uses a V6. I'm not sure of the engine code. But it is the same baseblock as all the nissan 3.5L V6's (maxima, pathfinder, fronter, Q35, G35, ...)
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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 08:17 AM
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Yeah, that's what the comment on me trying to salvage my dignity was about. I could have sworn something used the NA RB26E. Alas...I was very wrong.

It's the VQ35DE
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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 08:42 AM
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I see the same IS 300 in bright yellow just like my lancer on the way home from work. If we line up next too each other we race from the light. He usually beats me but If I jump on him I can at least keep the lead to the speed limit. They're nice cars, but over priced IMO. I'd rather have g35 or evo, or wrx, or cambird, or mustang svt, or etc.....
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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 09:13 AM
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Originally posted by Mary-Kate Olsen

As for the 350 using the skyline engine you are wrong. The skyline uses the RB26BETT which is a straight-six configuration. The 350Z uses a V6. I'm not sure of the engine code. But it is the same baseblock as all the nissan 3.5L V6's (maxima, pathfinder, fronter, Q35, G35, ...)
No, I think the 350Z does use a version of the newest Skyline's engine. The G35 is the U.S. market derivative of the V35 Skyline, which is sold in Japan with various engines. The Skyline GT-R is the only model to use the RB26DETT.
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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 09:33 AM
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Test drove a MT IS300 couple times. Its ride quality is good, and handles great. My complain to this car is the power band...I like torquey engine with good low-end torque to play with in city driving. The charateristic of the IS (stock) is not dynamic enough for ME... However, overall, it's still a very good package.

In regards to the Skyline/G35...I have yet to test drive one to comment on it...will do that this week maybe with my GF went back to HK.

BTW, there will no longer be any RB26DETT in any new production car anymore...
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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 12:28 PM
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I think that the ONLY engine for the front-midship Nissan platform is the V6. The only difference between the various 350Zs is the suspension, brakes, wheels, interior, etc, not engine. However, it is possible that the new Skyline GTR may utilize a V6, and sort of just be a G35 with all wheel drive. Not as awe inspiring as a twin turbo, but... that's at least the rumored plan for the new Supra as well. Sucks Hobie got double chastised for his mistake... happens when other people don't read the whole thread.

When I was mentioning turbo info for the IS, I brought it up, and haven't seen it disproven, the thought of salvaging exhaust manifolds and actual turbos. Now, with a good shop, it would be possible to manufacture the pipes, and relocate intake location, etc. Alot of the problems for custom turbos comes not from the piping (a mandrel machine and someone with some skill could probably fab piping) but for getting the exhaust manifold and correct turbo (let's not get started with the tuning side, I'm specifically talking about parts), and the turbo generally is easier. Anyway, seeing as that could be the case, why couldn't you just put the same turbo exhaust manifold (due to the same block code), shoehorn in a turbo, custom make the piping... maybe strap on an ECU from the supra, and... voila. That should be cheaper than 6K. Maybe I'm wrong. Hell, I'm not a Toyota/Lexus expert. I'm not a Turbo expert. Jeez, I'm not an expert at anything. Just a thought.
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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 12:58 PM
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You're right about the 350Z, but my point was that the V35 Skylines in Japan that the G35 (FM-platform) is based upon have two, maybe three NA V6 options. There is speculation that the R35 GTR sold in the U.S. will have a turbo-charged 3.5L V6 around 400hp.
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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by StreetLancer
I think that the ONLY engine for the front-midship Nissan platform is the V6. The only difference between the various 350Zs is the suspension, brakes, wheels, interior, etc, not engine. However, it is possible that the new Skyline GTR may utilize a V6, and sort of just be a G35 with all wheel drive. Not as awe inspiring as a twin turbo, but... that's at least the rumored plan for the new Supra as well. Sucks Hobie got double chastised for his mistake... happens when other people don't read the whole thread.
As a matter of fact, if I remember correctly, the GT-Rs competiting in the JGTC now do not have an I-6 RE26DETT (R32-R34) engine in them. Rather, they have a V6 turbo engine which is based on the VQ35DE with different internal. That is because all JGTC cars cannot use any engine that's not in production line (RB26DETT was "dead" in 8/02)

When I was mentioning turbo info for the IS, I brought it up, and haven't seen it disproven, the thought of salvaging exhaust manifolds and actual turbos. Now, with a good shop, it would be possible to manufacture the pipes, and relocate intake location, etc. Alot of the problems for custom turbos comes not from the piping (a mandrel machine and someone with some skill could probably fab piping) but for getting the exhaust manifold and correct turbo (let's not get started with the tuning side, I'm specifically talking about parts), and the turbo generally is easier. Anyway, seeing as that could be the case, why couldn't you just put the same turbo exhaust manifold (due to the same block code), shoehorn in a turbo, custom make the piping... maybe strap on an ECU from the supra, and... voila. That should be cheaper than 6K. Maybe I'm wrong. Hell, I'm not a Toyota/Lexus expert. I'm not a Turbo expert. Jeez, I'm not an expert at anything. Just a thought.
The problem I see utilizing Supra parts is that the IS's engine feature the VVTI system while the Supra one did not....
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