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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 05:46 PM
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Active Yaw Control was copied by honda and renamed "super handling all wheel drive". I believe that is the best AWD platform there is since it drastically improves cornering. It existed in the Lancer Evolution VI and there after only on JDM and Euro models. But they are much higher priced...Audi does not have anything like that....but they have been refining all wheel drive for over 20 years.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 05:50 PM
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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I would say SAYC equipped Evo's have the most advanced AWD for a street car. I would also say the WRC cars have the most advanced AWD systems there are. I don't care what car it is in WRC its AWD is nothing close to the same as what the street cars are eqipped with. We are talking application specific designed only for motorsport type diffs. here. The AWD drive systems in a WRC are much more advanced than anything we get for the street.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by EVILutionVIII
ATTESA ETS:

"ATTESA-ETS distributes the torque to the rear-wheels, but when slip is detected on one of those rear-wheels, it can distribute up to 50% of the torque to the front wheels, i.e. it can adjust the front/rear torque-split from anything between 0:100 to 50:50. Among the rear-wheels, an active LSD can further distribute the torque from one wheel to the other if necessary."
I also agree, the ATEESA-ETS is a work of art. I like the idea of it. The Jspec Evo AWD is pretty neat too.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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Reviews and Top Gear say that the Evos is the most high tech, quoted from Top Gear, "[quattro] it's not as high tech as the mitsubishis, but it gets the job done" something like that.

I don't know much about the Skylines, you can switch to just RWD right?, that's pretty high tech =p
if you can get proof of that i'd like to see it, thats some good info.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by nsnguyen
..........................The Evo system (either the VLSD or the ACD) are rally proven and great "true" awd systems that send power to all four wheels all the time. Many of the "active torque split" solutions are slow to respond and are poor performers at the track.

thanks for the great post. There are so many ways to design an AWD car.. but i'm very happy with the performance of the ACD in the Evo. I wish the Mitsu engineers could have figured out how to fit the Super AYC system into our U.S. Spec cars though. Might have helped to reduce some of the understeer at the track.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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the real evos have the best awd system in the world hands down. super acd and super ayc allws the car to bea 1 wheel drive if nessacary. HANDS DOWN ITS BETTER THAN AUDI.. the s4 has 2 open diffs.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by hotrod2448
I would say SAYC equipped Evo's have the most advanced AWD for a street car. I would also say the WRC cars have the most advanced AWD systems there are. I don't care what car it is in WRC its AWD is nothing close to the same as what the street cars are eqipped with. We are talking application specific designed only for motorsport type diffs. here. The AWD drive systems in a WRC are much more advanced than anything we get for the street.
+1. couldn't have said it better myself.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by nsnguyen
No. And it's not really a design flaw, it's due to several factors, mainly the wide tires, long wheelbase, and transverse engine. It's a compromise which results in high performance but poor turning radius.
i've heard it's also a side-effect of the super quick ratio steering rack? it can't turn the wheels out as much? can anyone confirm that?
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by EVILutionVIII
ATTESA ETS:

"ATTESA-ETS distributes the torque to the rear-wheels, but when slip is detected on one of those rear-wheels, it can distribute up to 50% of the torque to the front wheels, i.e. it can adjust the front/rear torque-split from anything between 0:100 to 50:50. Among the rear-wheels, an active LSD can further distribute the torque from one wheel to the other if necessary."

Nuttin came close to this AWD system. The quattro is... audi just i dont kno its just too luxury, i dont think it has a sporty side( screw the S4).

Porshe is excellent too.

hey about the Evo?
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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Nissan (by far IMHO) has the "best" system. ATTESA-ETS: RWD that can convert to AWD if need be. And the system is beefy. THe Evo is a close second.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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what about the STI's AWD system. i think it was 5th gear that tested the jdm sti and evo in the wet, and the sti bet the evo in almost every test. they said it was able to distribute the power to the ground better
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by elhalisf
what about the STI's AWD system. i think it was 5th gear that tested the jdm sti and evo in the wet, and the sti bet the evo in almost every test. they said it was able to distribute the power to the ground better
What magazine/TV show was that in? Do you have a link? That is very interesting stuff. I mean because usually the EVO wins in every handling category against the STi.

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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Lancerlover
Active Yaw Control was copied by honda and renamed "super handling all wheel drive".
Er... not quite in my opinion.

Just to set the record straight, Honda's SH-AWD can vary torque FRONT AND REAR and SIDE TO SIDE to all individual wheels, up to 70% if I'm not mistaken.

Evo's S-AYC only transfers REAR TORQUE from left to right wheels. The front/rear distribution remains at 50/50 at all times.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by atlvalet
Nissan (by far IMHO) has the "best" system. ATTESA-ETS: RWD that can convert to AWD if need be. And the system is beefy. THe Evo is a close second.
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