http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonb...times/thestig/

Same driver in both cars, the 350Z (not sure which year/model they tested) ran a 1:31.8 lap time where the Evo VIII (I think it's the FQ-320 but I'm not sure) ran a 1:28.9. The FQ-400 ran a 1:24.8...

I love how different magazines have completely different results. Braking tests always seem to be really messed up too, like one mag will say one car is the best braking car in the world and another will have totally different numbers.

-Trevor

 

that new VQ35HR looks to be a beautiful motor. especially with the rumored 3.7L version and Nissan/Cosworth 3.7L option for their "track" edition Z.

it's a sign of great things to come. very nice indeed!

 

They used 5 differant drivers that tested all the same cars, all drivers tested the evo and the 350z multiple times ON THE SAME DAY on the SAME TRACK! All conditions about as equal as possible...what more do you delusional people who are in serious denial its hilarious want!? lol

Get use to it...the 06 Z comes with new tires and wider tires with 265's in the back.

The old Z's were undertired

 

you mean they went out and faded the evo's fade-prone stock pads 5 times (or more), as they could only get, and how did they word it, ONE LAP out of them per session? Put a real pad, and stick me in the seat, and i bet even i could run better.

Loosing brakes doesn't tell you to push the car, tells you to back off and keep it in one piece.

 

Any car can outhandle another vehicle with "a proper setup." As for a Corvette being nothing more than a status symbol, I totally disagree with you. The Corvette has always been the best performer in its class. The Corvette single-handedly chased the 3000 GT VR4, 300 ZX TT, RX7, and Supra off our shores.

I'm not selling my own car short. I simply know its limits. There are better performing cars out there. I'm not going to defend it against a car that is out of its class, regardless of how much I'd like to.

Everyone likes to think their car is the best performer in the world, and nobody likes to hear it when someone says, "This car is better." You would find a very prime example of such behavior on www.iwsti.com. Every single time an STi gets its *** handed to it by a "lesser" machine, it turns into 10 pages of analyzations as to why the cheaper car beat the "almighty" STi.

 

Ok, now I know you're delusional. Seriously though, either get your car on a track and REALLY know its limitations or sell it and purchase your dream corvette. Let me know how the mid-life crisis status works out for you.

By proper setup I meant pads and proper alignment, nothing else. I apologize if that statment was too vague.

My first track day I consistently outran a ZR-1 on DOT-R's AND another misc. C5 in four different sessions. This was on stock tires and pads. I'm not saying that the Corvette is crap but some people make it sound like the best car out there. I've driven three different C5's and all three of them had major mechanical problems. The car is way too idolized.

I still really like the recent Corvette and especially the recent Z06's and if it weren't for the mechanicals, steering feel and the overall douchebag image of the car I would have bought one intead of the Evo.

Just my 2 cents and to each his own.

 

+1 on the Vette image ... The performance #s from the new Z06s is mind blowing and those cars obviously haul *** but the image one gives out when driving a Vette, no thanks!

 

quit being a damn fool. Is it the Z's fault the Evo came in under padded (lame excuse lol)? Why dont i send Car and Driver a letter and set up a rematch and we'll have you drive the evo around the track Mr. Schumacher, but only once because we wouldnt want the evo pads to fade right? Unless you bring your own pads... (BYOP )

 

some of you guys are hilarious

maybe it was the weather...

maybe it was the 35th aniversary version....

it was the driver.....

THE BEST one however was from the original poster of this threat: "im thinking they didnt know how to drive the EVO"

Christ, get the f*** over yourselves already, i know you all drive one so your biast but good god, face it, it lost, its published, and theres nothing you can do about it

 

No need to start with the personal attacks. That's the kind of crap that'll make you a douche bag in everyone's eyes very quickly.

It seems you joined just to get in a quick bashing session on the Evos because of what C&D published. Makes you feel like crap when a magazine compares the Z to the Evo, Evo wins, and you have someone join whatever Nissan forum you're on just to make your car seem superior. In no way is a Z superior to the Evo or vice versa. They are two different cars with two different approaches to the same thing us drivers like to do; race around a track.

I like the Z and numerous friends are owners, but honestly the car feels like a pig going around the turns while my friend's Evo felt surgically sharp. I got a chance to drive both the Z and Evo on the track and enjoyed the Evo many times more than the Z. Both had stock suspension with street/track pads during that time. I was able to get more consistent and faster lap times with the Evo and I never had to guess what the car was doing behind my back. Being able to have full confidence in the car really sold me on it.

 

the z was just a better car that day. its a stock vs stock comparison.

 

Anyone who regularly tracks an Evo or a 350Z knows that this outcome is not legitimate. 350Zs CAN be made into pretty good track cars, but in stock form, they literally have no chance against a stock Evo given equal drivers.

I know the parameters of this test, but it in no way matches the same tests done by countless other magazines, nor does it match the results of major racing organizations. Hell, the SCCA doesn't even put the 350Z in the same class as an Evo, because it simply is "outclassed" just like how the Evo/STi are in a lower class than Vette's and Lotus's.

 

Oh, yes, that's right, your Evo is the best performing car on the planet. I simply forgot! NOTHING can beat the "almighty" Evo! I must be dillusional! How stupid of me to even think such a thing! I mean, you are just so right, every Corvette on the planet has problems, because you know, you drove three of them. I'd hate to be the one to inform you, but I see 20 year old Vettes on the road all the time. I can't remember the last time I've seen a 20 year old Mitsubishi or Subaru on the road.

Now, I just have to ask. Have you ever seen the video of the Evo Vs. the Murcielago on the track where the Murcielago spins out and the Evo doesn't? You know, the one where the Evo "wins?" Yes, you probably have seen that video, haven't you? Are you one of those people that think an Evo is a better performer than the Murcielago just because one Murcielago spun out? Kinda like the Cobalt SS owners thinking they're superior to Evos and STis because a Cobalt SS won some stupid "time attack?"

The Corvette is a better performer than an Evo. Deal with it. And for the record, I'm not even a Corvette fan. But yes, the mechanicals really suck, too! I mean, who in their right mind would want a RWD car with a powerful American V8 mated to a 6-speed manual transmission, and an IRS to boot? Those people must be real idiots.

And c'mon, let's be honest, while there are some Corvette owners that look like douches, Evos and STis don't exactly have stellar records for what's you'd find behind the wheel. While we don't have mullets and wear our button-downed shirts opened with our sun-tanned chests and our cheap 14kt gold-plated "cross necklaces" we got out of a "bubble machine" for $0.25 in the grocery store, there are plenty I see looking like they wished they were Puff Daddy.

"Just my 2 cents and to each his own."

 

Relax man. I think most of the rational people here know what their cars can and can’t do. The rest are uninformed kids.

I think the main problem here is that in 99% of Z vs. Evo, the Evo wins. It’s ok to cry foul when things don’t add up.

I’ve owned an older Z, I was heart set on a 350Z. I test drove the 350, I thought it was great! I waited due to no money. Looked at Sti's, Evos, and others, test drove the Evo and came home with one.

Stock for stock anyone with any aptitude for cars based solely on performance would pick the Evo in my opinion.

 

QFT.