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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by johannes
This statement may ring true in your mind and probably felt good to type in your keyboard-I'm happy for you.

Personally, I find a great deal of satisfaction making statements about the performance abilities of my car using rubber, gasoline, and adrenaline

To bad you are in Texas.
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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350Z = Washington Generals
Evo= Harlem Globetrotters

You can't win 'em all...but 99% will do.

To be honest...it's boring sometimes to watch "curly" school all of those whiteboys in Green....gotta throw them a bone once in awhile to make it interesting.

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Just teasin'.

I'm just glad that the Evo was compared to something other than an STi. That comparo has been worked to death.

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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by kiley_sean
350Z = Washington Generals
Evo= Harlem Globetrotters

You can't win 'em all...but 99% will do.

To be honest...it's boring sometimes to watch "curly" school all of those whiteboys in Green....gotta throw them a bone once in awhile to make it interesting.

Thanks Car & Driver!



Just teasin'.

I'm just glad that the Evo was compared to something other than an STi. That comparo has been worked to death.
Evo= New York Yankees
350Z= Boston Red Sox

That means that maybe in another 80 years the 350Z will win again by case of fluke.
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 06:30 PM
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Any car can outhandle another vehicle with "a proper setup." As for a Corvette being nothing more than a status symbol, I totally disagree with you. The Corvette has always been the best performer in its class. The Corvette single-handedly chased the 3000 GT VR4, 300 ZX TT, RX7, and Supra off our shores.

I'm not selling my own car short. I simply know its limits. There are better performing cars out there. I'm not going to defend it against a car that is out of its class, regardless of how much I'd like to.

Everyone likes to think their car is the best performer in the world, and nobody likes to hear it when someone says, "This car is better." You would find a very prime example of such behavior on www.iwsti.com. Every single time an STi gets its *** handed to it by a "lesser" machine, it turns into 10 pages of analyzations as to why the cheaper car beat the "almighty" STi.
Haha, that was good for a few chuckles. The demise of the Supra and other Japanese sports cars had nothing to do with the Vette. Before the C5 came out in 97 most of those cars were already gone or on their way out. Those cars beat the C4 and were equal or close to the C5 in overall performance. It was mainly due to the higher demand for sport utilities and the Japanese yen was worth less and less on the US doller. The companies weren't turning enough profit to justify continued production. They started to make SUVs not sport's cars....
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 08:31 PM
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Haha, that was good for a few chuckles. The demise of the Supra and other Japanese sports cars had nothing to do with the Vette. Before the C5 came out in 97 most of those cars were already gone or on their way out. Those cars beat the C4 and were equal or close to the C5 in overall performance. It was mainly due to the higher demand for sport utilities and the Japanese yen was worth less and less on the US doller. The companies weren't turning enough profit to justify continued production. They started to make SUVs not sport's cars....
Chuckle again. Funny how only one of them's still around.

Yeah, that's what I thought. The Supra was NEVER close to the C5's performance. The C5 ran a low 13 1/4 mile at nearly 111 mph, while the lazy Supra couldn't crack a 13.7 @ 105 mph. The 300 ZXTT ran in the 14s! The 3000 GT VR4 was lucky to run 14.20s!

And yeah, that's right, they weren't turning enough profit. Guess why. Oh, that's right, America, their #1 market, didn't want'em!
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Sinister Subaru
Chuckle again. Funny how only one of them's still around.
Chuckle again. Funny how the company of the one still around is the only one not making money!

Honestly, the C5 which came out in 97 damn well better be faster than the Supra which came out in 91? Oh, just slap on a boost controller and forget about that faster part.

Oh, it's also funny how stock Supras still pull $50k. Good luck selling a C5 for that much.
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 11:04 PM
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Chuckle again. Funny how the company of the one still around is the only one not making money!

Honestly, the C5 which came out in 97 damn well better be faster than the Supra which came out in 91? Oh, just slap on a boost controller and forget about that faster part.

Oh, it's also funny how stock Supras still pull $50k. Good luck selling a C5 for that much.
50k for a Supra!

Not making money? Oh, you mean Mitsubishi's making money? When did that happen?
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Sinister Subaru
50k for a Supra!

Not making money? Oh, you mean Mitsubishi's making money? When did that happen?
well, we all know the 3000GT was the biggest/heaviest load of pig crap there was

Yeah, scary that Supras are pulling that much used. Stock I might add.... worth more stock than modded. Same deal with 3rd gen RX7s; completey stock ones with low miles (like 20k-30k) are pulling in $35k.

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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by spdracerut
well, we all know the 3000GT was the biggest/heaviest load of pig crap there was

Yeah, scary that Supras are pulling that much used. Stock I might add.... worth more stock than modded. Same deal with 3rd gen RX7s; completey stock ones with low miles (like 20k-30k) are pulling in $35k.
Um, no. I have never seen a stock low mileage RX7 hauling in 35k....not even over 15k.

And wherever these $50k Supras are, I'd sure like to see'em, because the low mileage ones here are only going for around 21k, and that's for one in pristine condition.

But yes, the VR4 was a heavy load of pig crap, but it was also the nicest looking of the bunch, followed by the 300ZX and the RX7, and then the Supra. The Supra is by far the ugliest of the bunch.

It's a shame the VR4 was so heavy, because it's a gorgeous car. It still looks good today, and has definitely aged well.
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 05:51 PM
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A very low mileage RX7 (third gen) would most definitely be in the $30K range. We're talking under 20K miles. Under 50K, they'd be right around 20 to 25K depending on model, year, etc...A typical high mileage mostly stock third gen runs $15K in decent condition.

And the RX7 is far and away the most aesthetically pleasing out of all the mid 90's JDM supercars. VR4? Please....
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Stock
A very low mileage RX7 (third gen) would most definitely be in the $30K range. We're talking under 20K miles. Under 50K, they'd be right around 20 to 25K depending on model, year, etc...A typical high mileage mostly stock third gen runs $15K in decent condition.

And the RX7 is far and away the most aesthetically pleasing out of all the mid 90's JDM supercars. VR4? Please....
The 300 ZXTT had the best of the "supercar looks" to it. It still looks great today....unlike the attrocity bestowed upon us called the 350Z.

The VR4 looks great...save for the latest models with the HUGE spoilers on them.
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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I'll agree to disagree on that one. The 7 is classic and timeless whereas the 300 looks dated. It looks like it's from the mid 90's no matter what you do to it. I still have people ask me if my 7 is a new design. Most don't even know what it is and will circle it several times in the parking lot to admire. I've even had senior citizens do this.
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 06:56 PM
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keep in mind that the 350 has a bigger displacement than our evo's.. thus giving it a slight advantage coz he can open it up more.. i dunno about the weight ?. are they lighter than us?/..

for me these are the probable 4 reasons why?..

1. 350 has a bigger displacement
2. power to weight
3. they are hyping up the 350 z
4. i think driver error..
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by wrxIIevo
when the modding begins, you don't look for a Z....
you are waiting for the GT-R....

+1 bump!! amen to that brotha!!
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AmSFighter
ARR! Still waiting on my c&d. I think my mailman is stealing them.

hell ya we're stealing the biatch :P.. lol!. i read them all the time but i havnt seen this issue.
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