That's my VIII and I'm driving, the Audi was no match at all.

 

Dcorn,

"Its made by the same people that make lamborghinis for God's sake."

I had no idea that Audi was made in Italy.

 

Lamborghini is wholly owned by Volkswagen Audi Group. A lot of the Gallardo technology is Audi based (aluminum chassis, v10).

 

It's fast luxury, and just about as fast as it gets. If you add the same stuff to the inside of an evo it'll be the same deal.

 

It's not an under-performing boat at all.

The Evo is lighter and more nimble because it was designed to be. It's focus is (almost) purely on performance. The Audi RS4 is designed as an all-round car. Good performance and good handling while also being comfortable for long trips and daily grinds. Haven't you noticed how many people complain about the Evo having a low-quality interior? or the the fact they think the ride is a bit harsh for daily-driving duties?

Besides. The RS4's engine is widely regarded (at least, by motoring mags) as the best V8 engine currently in production. The Audi is a far more 'complete' vehicle.

and if an Evo VIII/IX owner thinks the RS4's soft, Evo VI owners feel the same way about Evo VII-onwards owners. So there.

 

I don't mind the crappy interior or the harsh ride of an all performance machine. The only comfort I need in a daily driver is an AC, heater, and a simple radio. I'm all about performance, but if I just want the car to be all race I'll rip out all the stuff I just mentioned.

 

I think they care when you pass them.

 

Vigo,

I used to think exactly the way you do but, as I've gotten older my views have changed. I realized that the Evo's performance far exceeds what is legal or even remotely close to sensible for the street. So, if you want to drive your car at 10/10ths or really even 8/10ths you need to do it at the track to be responsible.

And then in taking it to the track you run the risk of breaking it, wrecking it, the cost of upkeep and, the cost/risk/want of even more mods to go faster and make it a worse street car. That's when it all clicked.

Why am I putting up with a loud crappy interior, unnecessarily stiff ride and, every boy racer around screwing with me? Why am I sacrificing some of the things I want for performance I can't legally use without going to the track? If I'm going to have to go to the track to feel like I'm doing something in this car I might as well buy something I can enjoy driving everyday and get a dedicated track vehicle to get my speed fix? I don't want something that sucks and is boring for a daily driver just something with a little more luxury, good performance, good looks, and is fun to drive but, not necessarily with race car capabilities.

We just bought my wife a 335i and to be honest I would happily sell my Evo buy another one and a shifter cart if I could afford to. That said I think we are going to keep the Evo for a while and see what new cars come out in the next year or two. By then the Evo will paid off for a while and maybe I can replace the shifter cart with it.

The RS4 kind of makes sense to me but not really. It is expensive, fast and luxurious great. However I think would rather have two cars to do those different jobs (fast/ luxury). and for the cost of the RS4 you could buy a nice daily driver and a used piece to build into rocket. That way I don't have to worry about bending up my luxury car exploring its performance capabilities.

 

Just priced out an RS4 on Edmunds with the premium package and with the $73,000 for the RS4, I'd buy a nice used Mercedes E55 with that money or a used RS4.

I like the RS4 and Audi's in general (My previous car was a B5 S4) but I think that the RS4 is not a great car. Good but not great.

If and when the new M3 comes out (which is regularly compared to the S4 even though it's a coupe) I sure the M3 will outperform.


I think the Evo versus RS4 "debate" comes down to this:

RS4 is a better balanced car, but will probably never be as fast as Evo (unless you spend serious money).

Evo can be a faster car, but never as comfortable and good-looking as an RS4.

 

Check out this RS4 modified by German firm MTM.
Its got Lyshom Twin Screw Supercharger boosting mere 5.8 psi with no internal mods.
This adds 120 bhp and 96 lb-ft of torque.
This car was featured on March 07 issue of European Car.
0-100kph in 3.9sec.
0-200kph in 11.3sec.
top speed of 320khp (199mph)
Not bad at all.
http://articles.motortoday.com/feature/MTMRS4/
Sorry about the web article written in Thai.

 

very nice cars

 

Cool car what's the price tag?

 

MTM's supercharger for the B6/B7 S4 is somewhere around $21K, so I can only imagine what they want for the RS4 blower. MTM stuff is big money, but high quality. For example, the CF hood on that car is about $6K.

 

It;s an amazing car, the inside is much better....but it's not worth double the price of an MR! BTW the UK mag Car tested a stock IX against the RS4 and a Porsche C4s and the IX was faster than both on a road course!

 

I'm totally cool with your viewpoint. It makes good sense. Have a nice comfy car that's not too expensive and one that's completely dedicated to racing. Of course I will use the Evo on the racetrack too push the limits of it's capabilities.