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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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Question tt m5

i know this car has been posted before, but i was just taking a look at the turbo setup, and i don't get it! its set up in the back of the car, but thats not what confuses me, it looks like the left turbo charge pipe is going towards the back, then maybe to the right, and then towards the front of the car, and connecting with the right side turbo charge pipe? that just doesn't seem like it would make sense to me! can anyone explain whats going on here? thanx


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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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I dunno. I do know that I dont understand the point to these set ups.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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^ Me too, can someone please explain?
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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To avoid heatsoak I believe and maybe a TT setup doesn't fit so snugly in a m5 engine.....anyways I bet this setup increases lag cuz the air has to travel back to the engine and then out.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 06:59 AM
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 07:10 AM
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I love seeing these setups.

Yep your'e right...

Looking straight at this pic, the left turbo's outlet pipe routes UP and around the black area and merges with the outlet of the right turbo.

The pressurize air then moves forward to probably and intercooler then intake.

As said before they do it for space and to avoid mussing around the pre-cat piping that also tends to take up space.

With a huge V10, I'm sure lag is barely an issue. A smaller car would need a single or smaller turbos.
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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its a cost/space effective way to get around doing a full custom turbo setup. Only prob is that the turbine effeciency is reduced due to the distance from the combustion chamber.
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sl0ev0
i know this car has been posted before, but i was just taking a look at the turbo setup, and i don't get it! its set up in the back of the car, but thats not what confuses me, it looks like the left turbo charge pipe is going towards the back, then maybe to the right, and then towards the front of the car, and connecting with the right side turbo charge pipe? that just doesn't seem like it would make sense to me! can anyone explain whats going on here? thanx
Yeah, I think you're right. Its not like its going to make it any worse though is it? Remote turbo's have a place I suppose but a M5 as about as far away from that place as you can get
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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This kind of setup would also keep all that unwanted heat out of the engine bay
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 09:01 AM
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when will it be on a dyno to see numbers ?
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 09:11 AM
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when will it be on a dyno to see numbers ?
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/cmc_m5.asp
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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Sick!
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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I totally get it! This dude was pretty much right; except that the pipes that meet are going up to the intercooler. The intake pipes are completely seperate comming off the front of the turbos, and apparently going up toward the wheels wells; each turbo has it's own intake on it's own side of the car...

Just compare it to your Evo's turbo setup to help you understand... It's pretty easy actually.

It's gotta be laggy though, regardless of how big the engine is; think about how long it takes your wideband to get a reading after you touch the gas; and that's only right after your downpipe... Takes like 2 seconds... Not to mention the length of the intercooler pipes.

Think about how easy a setup like this would be to do though. Not having to worry about exhaust manifolds or cramming everything in the engine bay...

To me it looks more like this is the first turbo setup this company has done, and they just have no idea what they're doing; lol.

Originally Posted by Jamdown
I love seeing these setups.

Yep your'e right...

Looking straight at this pic, the left turbo's outlet pipe routes UP and around the black area and merges with the outlet of the right turbo.

The pressurize air then moves forward to probably and intercooler then intake.

As said before they do it for space and to avoid mussing around the pre-cat piping that also tends to take up space.

With a huge V10, I'm sure lag is barely an issue. A smaller car would need a single or smaller turbos.

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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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It'll certainly keep the heat out of the engine bay - unfortunately it will also mean most of the heat in the exhaust gasses is also gone by the time it reaches the turbo, and its this heat which makes a turbo work. Hence remote turbos being a bad idea, except maybe for cheapness.

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To me it looks more like this is the first turbo setup this company has done, and they just have no idea what they're doing; lol.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 05:58 PM
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guys, i think were all wrong actually. it doesn't make sense to me for a turbo to be blowing into a T pipe, since one of the turbo's is on one side of that T, it just doesn't seem effecient. from looking at a much larger picture on carwalls.com, i think that both turbo's are actually running towards the back of the car, then i guess they meet, and go into a single pipe, and then they go towards the front of the car on the right side. if you look at the "t pipe", it doesn't actually seem to be a t-pipe, maybe just an illusion from the angle this picture was taken. maybe im wrong though lol
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