I can turbocharge ANYTHING!
Here's an interesting dilemma I'm having..
I need a pump to circulate the engine oil from the reservoir, tiny cooler, and through the turbo, it needs to be able to pump 5w30 wt oil, maintain about 30-40psi, and be able to operate properly at engine temps of about 130-150 degrees F. Does anyone know of a pump capable of doing this that is somewhat small?? Its even more unusual as the oil volume through this turbo is probably very low as it is, which means it doesn't require alot of oil volume, just adequate pressure.
I was thinking about testing a walbro inline pump and using a fuel pressure regulator with a return to maintain the proper pressure . However My experience with small inline pumps is they rely heavily on the fuel circulating around it to cool. I'm really looking for a continuous pump that won't overheat, and can support the viscosity of the fluid and temp. But I haven't found anything that wasnt fairly large. Its the only component I'm missing!
The way Its being plumbed will keep the oil always circulating through the cooler and filter, as most turbos use a restrictor to restrict flow through it. So I figure the Bypass port on the regulator can be used as route to circulate through the cooler.
The reserve tank and filter will be set up alot like "Indian Larry" type stuff, using a remote filter mount and small oil filter (proper scale for the size of the bike)
HELP! I use scavenge systems with larger bikes and turbo setups, but unfortunately those pumps are pretty large.
I also need tiny pressure and temp gages (1" or so) that will work with fluid and air.
I need a pump to circulate the engine oil from the reservoir, tiny cooler, and through the turbo, it needs to be able to pump 5w30 wt oil, maintain about 30-40psi, and be able to operate properly at engine temps of about 130-150 degrees F. Does anyone know of a pump capable of doing this that is somewhat small?? Its even more unusual as the oil volume through this turbo is probably very low as it is, which means it doesn't require alot of oil volume, just adequate pressure.
I was thinking about testing a walbro inline pump and using a fuel pressure regulator with a return to maintain the proper pressure . However My experience with small inline pumps is they rely heavily on the fuel circulating around it to cool. I'm really looking for a continuous pump that won't overheat, and can support the viscosity of the fluid and temp. But I haven't found anything that wasnt fairly large. Its the only component I'm missing!
The way Its being plumbed will keep the oil always circulating through the cooler and filter, as most turbos use a restrictor to restrict flow through it. So I figure the Bypass port on the regulator can be used as route to circulate through the cooler.
The reserve tank and filter will be set up alot like "Indian Larry" type stuff, using a remote filter mount and small oil filter (proper scale for the size of the bike)
HELP! I use scavenge systems with larger bikes and turbo setups, but unfortunately those pumps are pretty large.
I also need tiny pressure and temp gages (1" or so) that will work with fluid and air.
Last edited by MalibuJack; Apr 24, 2007 at 06:37 AM.
Honestly, I don't expect this thing to be fast at all, even my vt600 is probably going to be quicker.
but I did some rough calculations, assuming the bike is about 450 pounds with rider, and the speed isnt gearing limited, it would run about 13.5 in the quarter at under 100mph. I think my stock bike runs that with a good rider.
That is assuming the engine and turbo set up is good enough to make about 35hp, of which I doubt, the stock 200cc engine produces about 17hp and 13lbft torque.
An interesting side note, because the carb is draw-through, the fuel passing through the turbo should have an intercooling effect.
but I did some rough calculations, assuming the bike is about 450 pounds with rider, and the speed isnt gearing limited, it would run about 13.5 in the quarter at under 100mph. I think my stock bike runs that with a good rider.
That is assuming the engine and turbo set up is good enough to make about 35hp, of which I doubt, the stock 200cc engine produces about 17hp and 13lbft torque.
An interesting side note, because the carb is draw-through, the fuel passing through the turbo should have an intercooling effect.
Last edited by MalibuJack; Apr 24, 2007 at 06:56 AM.
Here's an interesting dilemma I'm having..
I need a pump to circulate the engine oil from the reservoir, tiny cooler, and through the turbo, it needs to be able to pump 5w30 wt oil, maintain about 30-40psi, and be able to operate properly at engine temps of about 130-150 degrees F. Does anyone know of a pump capable of doing this that is somewhat small?? Its even more unusual as the oil volume through this turbo is probably very low as it is, which means it doesn't require alot of oil volume, just adequate pressure.
I was thinking about testing a walbro inline pump and using a fuel pressure regulator with a return to maintain the proper pressure . However My experience with small inline pumps is they rely heavily on the fuel circulating around it to cool. I'm really looking for a continuous pump that won't overheat, and can support the viscosity of the fluid and temp. But I haven't found anything that wasnt fairly large. Its the only component I'm missing!
The way Its being plumbed will keep the oil always circulating through the cooler and filter, as most turbos use a restrictor to restrict flow through it. So I figure the Bypass port on the regulator can be used as route to circulate through the cooler.
The reserve tank and filter will be set up alot like "Indian Larry" type stuff, using a remote filter mount and small oil filter (proper scale for the size of the bike)
HELP! I use scavenge systems with larger bikes and turbo setups, but unfortunately those pumps are pretty large.
I also need tiny pressure and temp gages (1" or so) that will work with fluid and air.
I need a pump to circulate the engine oil from the reservoir, tiny cooler, and through the turbo, it needs to be able to pump 5w30 wt oil, maintain about 30-40psi, and be able to operate properly at engine temps of about 130-150 degrees F. Does anyone know of a pump capable of doing this that is somewhat small?? Its even more unusual as the oil volume through this turbo is probably very low as it is, which means it doesn't require alot of oil volume, just adequate pressure.
I was thinking about testing a walbro inline pump and using a fuel pressure regulator with a return to maintain the proper pressure . However My experience with small inline pumps is they rely heavily on the fuel circulating around it to cool. I'm really looking for a continuous pump that won't overheat, and can support the viscosity of the fluid and temp. But I haven't found anything that wasnt fairly large. Its the only component I'm missing!
The way Its being plumbed will keep the oil always circulating through the cooler and filter, as most turbos use a restrictor to restrict flow through it. So I figure the Bypass port on the regulator can be used as route to circulate through the cooler.
The reserve tank and filter will be set up alot like "Indian Larry" type stuff, using a remote filter mount and small oil filter (proper scale for the size of the bike)
HELP! I use scavenge systems with larger bikes and turbo setups, but unfortunately those pumps are pretty large.
I also need tiny pressure and temp gages (1" or so) that will work with fluid and air.
Not sure, its a bike photo from the www.kikker5150.com website. I know I've seen it before, but I don't know who it belongs to.
I'm assuming a dry sump oil pump would be too large? Something along the lines of this?
Yep, you have to make sure you have the oil filter before the pump so it doesnt damage the diaphragm, thats the same pump I used on a friends drag bike, its the ONLY one I could find that met my criteria, but it was hard to track down. Remember that site, their selling something, so they will have something negative to say about anything but their own product. However for my application it should be fine.
The Weldon seemed like a good design for your application, provided the size was okay. If you need it smaller than that, you're probably looking at something rather exotic (and expensive). Of course, the Weldon is almost $900...