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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 07:41 AM
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the only issue that I have with BMW, and other European cars for that matter, is that quality performance parts are unbelievably expensive. For example the CHEAPEST single turbo kit from HPA for a VW R32 is $8000 http://hpamotorsports.com/products_t...gle_mk4r32.htm. A supercharger kit for the m3 is almost $10,000 http://www.activeautowerke.com/super...e46m3/main.php. Granted that the 335i already has the additional hardware to facilitate a cheaper install of a slightly bigger turbo, i bet they will still be expensive.

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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 07:46 AM
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i am a huge fan of the 335. it will be without a doubt my first family car for the wife.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 10:18 AM
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I test drove a 335 and must say I was impressed with the car. I felt as though the car was quicker than my IX from a rolling first gear launch to 60 (which it probably was), but felt like the Evo had much more from say a rolling 3rd gear pull. Again, this was just seat of the pants, I have no numbers to back it up. I think it'll be my next daily when the Evo is paid off sometime next year.

I wouldn't doubt the the 335 compensates for alt. My old Saab use to - it would normally grab about 11psi but when I was heading through the rockies it was regularly wicking up to 16psi. Once I was out of the rockies it went back to 11psi.

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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 10:27 AM
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Carlos post up some pics of the bimmer.

And I think you got the wrong car. I was talking of the Z4 coupe si. Not the Z06.

Vettes look nice on the outside,, but they are way to wide, and next to zero cargo room.

I was just very impressed with the z4 coupe. No real need for the M version. Maybe if I can get them to Low $30's. I would be very happy with that car for a while.

Lets see your 335i now!
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 11:23 AM
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Nice write up. I am a big fan of the 335i and they are a force to be reckoned with. Have a friend that has one and had it tuned and it is bone stock and that thing is fast! I wouldn't mind having one at all.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by silvrevo
Carlos post up some pics of the bimmer.

And I think you got the wrong car. I was talking of the Z4 coupe si. Not the Z06.

Vettes look nice on the outside,, but they are way to wide, and next to zero cargo room.

I was just very impressed with the z4 coupe. No real need for the M version. Maybe if I can get them to Low $30's. I would be very happy with that car for a while.

Lets see your 335i now!
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by silvrevo

Vettes look nice on the outside,, but they are way to wide, and next to zero cargo room.


I think you're mistaking the Vette with a 911. Vettes have outstanding cargo capabilities.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 03:02 AM
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WRX. I have driven a c6zo6, and Im a little at a loss concerning your statements about it not having torque unless your in its powerband comment. I mean that car exudes torque. Hell you can go from a stop in 5th gear.....which Top Gear has proven.
hehe...that is a common statement from a 335 owner. Blame it on the 300tq @ 1300rpm.

However I was also at a loss when Carlos told me over the phone that the Z06 was torqueless below 3-4k rpm I didn't know that you have to drive a 7 liter v8 like you hate it in order to go fast: that is the definition for VTEC in my dictionary.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
Are you sure you did not drove it in Sport mode?, it make a world of difference.. Some car magazines are trapping 105.9mph on the sedans and 13.2 1/4 miles.

My testimony is very different. I went to test drive a C6 Z06 and did not impressed me, then a couple of days later I went for a test drive on the 335I and it sold me.

While the C6 Z06 had 505hp it got brutally penalized by its excessively tall gears(60mph in 1st, 85mph in 2nd, 125mph in 3rd, etc) not to mention that the torque isn't there unless you are in the power curve.

I test drove this C6 Z06 in Tucson with some heat and I can honestly said that I wasn't impressed, I was hoping for more. Yes, I know that on paper the Z06 blows the door of the BMW 335i when pushing it to the limits but driving in town the BMW 335i superfast spool up, great torque at lower rpms and short gear ratios compensates for everything.

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zo6 didn't impress you, you cant even compare a zo6 with a 335i, 2 totally different cars. 1 is a super car the other a golf bag carrier (not knocking on your car) but it blows it away more than just on paper,,, read last months issue of motor trend where they compare a few cars including a evo,335i,lotus,zo6 and a few others. i drove a 335i and was impressed but it lacked character and soul, just my 2c on this issue
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 09:19 AM
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hehe...that is a common statement from a 335 owner. Blame it on the 300tq @ 1300rpm.

However I was also at a loss when Carlos told me over the phone that the Z06 was torqueless below 3-4k rpm I didn't know that you have to drive a 7 liter v8 like you hate it in order to go fast: that is the definition for VTEC in my dictionary.
+1. I had a C5 Coupe, and it has plenty of torque from the bottom end, and though I have never driven C6 Z06, it must have alot more than my C5 did. BMW has 300f-tq@1300, right? C6 Z06 has 470f-tq@4800. I have not seen the dyno result, but maybe it feels like it is torqueless because over 3000 is crazy?

In addition to the above, I am still puzzled why we are comparing 335i and C6 Z06. I liked 335i, and seriously comsidered it when I bought my Evo, but I went with Evo, for I thought I'd get 335i after this Evo. Z06 and 335i are totally different car. 3.0 twin turbo sedan or coupe with 300hp and 7.0, fiberglass body 2 seater with 505 horses.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 10:00 AM
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Perfect color , that is about 90% sure of my top picks in color/options.

I see your out of the shifting business?

Your GLI is also very nice.

Nice evo part inventory also.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by silvrevo
Perfect color , that is about 90% sure of my top picks in color/options.

I see your out of the shifting business?

Your GLI is also very nice.

Nice evo part inventory also.
Great observation, I was hoping someone was going to ask me that question. ).

Anyway, I drove all these years nothing but manual. I love the manual transmission but I haven't talk to you guys on how many transmission failures I have had during my driving experiences, just too many to tell.

I did my homework, I did extensive reading on the DSG( for VW), this transmission pulled consistent 3 tenth of a second over the manual counterpart, additionally the fuel comsumption was better and the trouble free of not missing gears, not grinding gears was a plus. Add in top of that the benefit of driving in traffic.

On the BMW , again I did even more reserach, I noticed that the fastest cars and the most consistent times were 100% of the times on the Autos whne driven by the average owner and not by a professional car magazine driver.

Not that the 6 speed is slow but the Auto is 95% of the times more cosistent over the manual. I am all about statistics so if anyone has a doubt I will be more than glad to start providing the specific appropiate links.

The Steptronic shifts gears in 125 miliseconds, that is freaking fast! . When you are not driving in sport mode this transmission shifts in a way that you don't even notice that is shifting, it is silk.

The gas mileage is improved 1-2mpg over the manual. The first 4 gears on the Auto are shorter than the counterpart on the 6 speed manual thus giving it the edge on acceleration.

I am a coffee drinker and I enjoy drinking coffee in the mornings while going to work. The Steptronic is a blessing, it allows me to drink coffee while driving and or answer the phone while driving, I know I should be talking over the phone of drinking coffeee while driving but when I do it feels like a lot of comfort.

Sorry that I went sidetrack on the subject but I just want it to give the whole picture from the beginning to the end. Sincerely, if the industry keeps providing awesome transmission like the one on the VW(GSG) the one on the BMW(Steptronic) the one on the new Evos X and stuff like that I think I wouldn't go back to manual for a while.

My .2c

Carlos

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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 05:31 PM
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This is all lies.... the EVOLUTION is way faster out of the box. U must have had alot of tail wind on the day u brought the BMW and alot of head wind when u brought the EVO!!!! STOP SPREADING LIES!




HAHAHA, sorry just jking. I think this is a good thread. I am a firm beleaver in the power of the new turbo'd 3 series. They r amazing, i cant wait to see some up graded turbo #'s!!! How does the handling compare?
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PhoenixEvo
This is all lies.... the EVOLUTION is way faster out of the box. U must have had alot of tail wind on the day u brought the BMW and alot of head wind when u brought the EVO!!!! STOP SPREADING LIES!




HAHAHA, sorry just jking. I think this is a good thread. I am a firm beleaver in the power of the new turbo'd 3 series. They r amazing, i cant wait to see some up graded turbo #'s!!! How does the handling compare?
WOW!! You got me good... I swear, as I was reading your first paragraph my blood pressure arise. I wouldn't tell a lie when I am dealing with this topics. Testing cars is my life, is my hobby and I enjoy very much so generating tons of car data (Gtech, dynos,track runs, video, and a lot of hours reading over the internet)

I am glad you were joking... for a moment I was upset. I truly love sharing my car histories and I love to hear your car histories as well.

Speaking of histories, I have plans to go to Phoenix tomorrow to run at Firebird. I want to either confirm or bust the myth of the BMW ecu overboost compensation on the BMW 335I.

Take care!

Carlos

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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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What are your plans mod wise?
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