GTR 7:38 'Ring time: Nissan cheats by using slicks?
Regarding the quote saying they used cut-slick tires... Mizuno was mis-quoted. Here's the actual quote...
I'm still trying to hunt down the source of the quote. He was misquoted on this site... http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/news/de...?storyId=17066
Mizuno claimed a time of 7minutes 38 seconds, compared with 7:43 for a Porsche 911 GT3 and 7:32 for a Carrera GT, but he was anxious to point out that there had been "two wet patches on the circuit." Indeed, he mentioned the "wet patches" so many times that you wondered why Nissan simply hadn't waited for a dry day. Mizuno reckoned that a time of around 7:30 should have been possible in the dry, but that going much faster would have required hand-cut slicks, which isn't "real world." Bizarrely, Nissan admitted to having different test drivers for different lapping. While Chief Test Driver Toshio Suzuki operates in the 7:30-7:40 range, his right-hand man is a 7:40-7:50 man."
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Regarding the quote saying they used cut-slick tires... Mizuno was mis-quoted. Here's the actual quote...
I'm still trying to hunt down the source of the quote. He was misquoted on this site... http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/news/de...?storyId=17066
I'm still trying to hunt down the source of the quote. He was misquoted on this site... http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/news/de...?storyId=17066
Mizuno reckoned that a time of around 7:30 should have been possible in the dry, but that going much faster would have required hand-cut slicks, which isn't "real world."
Mizuno reckoned that a time of around 7:30 should have been possible in the dry, but that going much faster would have required slicks, which isn't "real world."
But that just brings up the question: how do you know Edmunds wasn't the one that misquoted him?
That could've easily meant to say:
The Pistonheads line about pulling 2g also leads me to believe they were using a sticky tire. There is no way the car would pull 2g on a runflat.
That could've easily meant to say:
The Pistonheads line about pulling 2g also leads me to believe they were using a sticky tire. There is no way the car would pull 2g on a runflat.
The only thing is the tires were screaming on a lot of the turns... more of a street tire traight. Also, aren't cut slicks an R-comp, which can be had by anyone as a street-going tire (not one you would want, but still a street tire)? I realize that would be cheating on Nissan's part anyways though, since it's not the stock production tire.
(just for the sake of arguement) Also, the tires on the GT-R are special made just for the car... no telling how grippy they actually are, regardless if they're run-flats or not.
Here's the quotes...
http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline/3620
And...
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f165732
http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline/3620
Much is being made of the car's lap time at the famous Nurburgring Nordschleife circuit in Germany. Mizuno claimed a time of 7minutes 38 seconds, compared with 7:43 for a Porsche 911 GT3 and 7:32 for a Carrera GT, but he was anxious to point out that there had been "two wet patches on the circuit." Indeed, he mentioned the "wet patches" so many times that you wondered why Nissan simply hadn't waited for a dry day.
Mizuno reckoned that a time of around 7:30 should have been possible in the dry, but that going much faster would have required hand-cut slicks, which isn't "real world." Bizarrely, Nissan admitted to having different test drivers for different lapping. While Chief Test Driver Toshio Suzuki operates in the 7:30-7:40 range, his right-hand man is a 7:40-7:50 man. It's amazing how much the "Ring vernacular" has entered the Japanese psyche
Mizuno reckoned that a time of around 7:30 should have been possible in the dry, but that going much faster would have required hand-cut slicks, which isn't "real world." Bizarrely, Nissan admitted to having different test drivers for different lapping. While Chief Test Driver Toshio Suzuki operates in the 7:30-7:40 range, his right-hand man is a 7:40-7:50 man. It's amazing how much the "Ring vernacular" has entered the Japanese psyche
"#7 of 7 Tires used on the 7:38 lap by jkavanagh Oct 29, 2007 (3:19 pm)
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There's been some confusion over the tires used on the GT-R during its 7:38 lap of the Nurburgring. Various sources have reported that cut slicks were used. This is incorrect, and stems from a language barrier at a press conference during the GT-R's debut at the Tokyo Motor Show.
Senior GT-R development engineering staff on hand at the 'ring trip I attended confirmed that production-specification (including the tread compound) Bridestone RE070 tires were used on the 7:38 lap.
The three pre-production cars Nissan had on hand during the final Nurburgring trip were production-intent configuration. The strongest car of the three (within production variation) was selected to run the lap, with no "hotting up" done to fudge the result."
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There's been some confusion over the tires used on the GT-R during its 7:38 lap of the Nurburgring. Various sources have reported that cut slicks were used. This is incorrect, and stems from a language barrier at a press conference during the GT-R's debut at the Tokyo Motor Show.
Senior GT-R development engineering staff on hand at the 'ring trip I attended confirmed that production-specification (including the tread compound) Bridestone RE070 tires were used on the 7:38 lap.
The three pre-production cars Nissan had on hand during the final Nurburgring trip were production-intent configuration. The strongest car of the three (within production variation) was selected to run the lap, with no "hotting up" done to fudge the result."
