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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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Thanks guys for not flaming me and being really helpful! Opinions DO matter, and as for Kurt and Steevo, I appreciate you guys' input!! I know the GTS and the MS3 aren't in the same "class", I'm only comparing them by my price range, and body styling and comfort/technology. I considered a GTi at one point, but i figured insurance would be sky high for a high-performance turbocharged coupe.

And i'm with State Farm and my quote for the MS3 was in fact lower...I got quoted $934/6 months for the mazda and $984/6 mos. for the lancer... Beats me, but i'm really gunning for the MS3 right now. I don't know how to drive a stick well, but I think I can handle it. I probably won't do a whole lot of modding to it if i were to get it. Never owned a turbo car before either.
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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wait for the Ralliart.. the Mazda3 looks like a minivan
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 04:01 PM
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lancerj, your MS3 is sick!
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 04:03 PM
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I live with my parents right now, i'm 23 - and im in no rush to move out just yet - so i can afford a decent car. The evo is my fav. car, but I just realllly know that either the note will kill me, or the insurance - -either or, will not look good for me, even though my driving record is clean, and this is my first accident in 5 years.
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by lancerj
to the person who said about the bypass valve closing that is completely false. you must be thinking about the throttle plate. cobb will solve that....
Then what is the hole for that is inside that stock bypass valve for, to increase boost, I think not.
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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I love how so many people are telling him to either A. get the lancer (I have no idea why someone would settle for 150 hp just to "be unique" especially when the lancer isn't unique) or B. wait for the Ralliart even though no one seems to know the price for the Ralliart yet, it looks as much like the base lancer as the MS3 looks like the base 3 and it'll mean waiting for god knows how long based on a gamble. Some people told me to wait for the 08 WRX to come out before I bought mine but I'm sure as hell glad I didn't.
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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Why not make a list of cars and drive them to see which one fits you. Here's a short list to help you out
MS3
GTI
WRX
Lancer GTS
New Cobalt SS (looks to be a hell of a car and according to some tests it's the fastest one in the group)
Civic SI
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 04:13 PM
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hey ambystom01 (i believe we've talked before) you're a pretty cool dude. And i plan on possibly visiting Calgary this summer - i visited montreal back in december for the first time - ANYWAYS hah, The 4dr GTi is probably more like a 3rd choice at this point, and i've ruled out the lowsy 140ish TQ on that Si, and the cobalt is "too american" for me, plus i DESPISE the sound of a supercharger. lol
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 04:23 PM
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honestly i think u should go for the MS3 but have the lancer as a 2nd choice, if u call insurance and stuff and find out that insurance on the MS3 is a pain then for 4 the lancer
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 04:35 PM
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I would go for the other 4 cars on the list before I went to the lancer.
The new SS isn't supercharged, it's turbocharged and about 260 hp with built in launch control and flat-foot shifting. As far as bang for the buck goes, it's king. The interior is what you'd expect from Chevy (ie. boring and crappy) but it's fast, handles like a sports car and I would suspect is not only easy to mod, but more than capable of handling another 100 hp without any major modifications like transmission or internals.
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Tis true but there's somethings that some people might like about the WRX over the MS3. AWD is a huge plus if you live in snowy areas and the availability of mods is nice. The major weak points for the WRX are the stock tune is crap and the stock tires are even crappier. A simple reflash and some good quality tires turns the car from a decent all-around perfomer to a real competitor.
Of course, in fact in the latest edition of Modified Magazine the featured car is a new 08 WRX hatch pushing around 400+ awhp I believe. I can't be certain since I let a friend of mine borrow it from me today. But stock for stock, I would still take the ms3. However if the two were modified...

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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 04:48 PM
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Well, I'm a freelance photographer, so I'm also concerned with space - thats why i'm wanting another 4dr. I didnt know the new SS was turbo'd, that's pretty cool. - it's still an american car, even though (ive heard) mazda is owned by Ford, and well that technically makes the mazda an american car i guess?? i dont know..
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 04:58 PM
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Mazda is owned by Ford and from what I remember, the chassis for the 3 is actually from a Volvo. Even the last gen SS was a great car, it regularly made top 10 lists and although it is american, it's plenty reliable and not something to simply dismiss. I came pretty close to buying one myself but ended up going a different direction.
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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they look aweswome - i ain't gonna lie! Esp, that gorgeous orangeish color!! I just don;'t like a lot of the arrogance that comes w/ "most" amercian car drivers (i.e. mustangs esp., cobalts, chargers, etc) - - at least that way in the state of Alabama. These guys talk so much ****
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 05:15 PM
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Well that can be said of almost any car manufacturer. I've met jackass Mitsubishi guys, Subaru guys, Ford guys, etc.
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