STi Horizontally Opposed engines
no one has an issue with people spreading the false rumor that Subaru uses Mitsubishi turbos.
Lack of proof is not a proof of lacking, that's a logical flaw. I fully admit it is likely untrue but I'm not going to completely dismiss it as a possibility either.
Sure they used them in the past but they haven't in some time. The 4G63 used to have issues with crank walk but I'm sure you're just as annoyed as I am when people on other forums talk as if it's a current problem for the Evo VIII and IX.
Sure they used them in the past but they haven't in some time. The 4G63 used to have issues with crank walk but I'm sure you're just as annoyed as I am when people on other forums talk as if it's a current problem for the Evo VIII and IX.
It's possible that fairies and unicorns designed the STi's transmission, I admit it is likely untrue though.
Sure they used them in the past but they haven't in some time.

The 4G63 used to have issues with crank walk but I'm sure you're just as annoyed as I am when people on other forums talk as if it's a current problem for the Evo VIII and IX.
Last edited by GPTourer; Jul 23, 2009 at 10:08 AM.
There is this thing called logic and from a logical standpoint, a lack of proof is not proof of lacking. In fact, as far as science is concerned, you cannot prove anything, you can simply disprove the alternatives. At the moment, as I have said over and over again (which apparently goes unnoticed), it is likely that it's just a myth, a rumor started a long time ago. However, given the lack of any definite "this is not true" evidence, it's impossible to dismiss it altogether. It's not unheard of for companies to consult on other projects.
Yes, people get physically sick to their stomach that a part made by a major company like Mitsubishi is on their car
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What's really annoying is when people continually play the troll card while at the same time personally targeting a single individual over and over again in thread after thread after thread.
Yes, people get physically sick to their stomach that a part made by a major company like Mitsubishi is on their car
. What's really annoying is when people continually play the troll card while at the same time personally targeting a single individual over and over again in thread after thread after thread.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah What's really annoying is when people continually play the troll card while at the same time personally targeting a single individual over and over again in thread after thread after thread.
Face it.
You've been called out, you were wrong, that's it.
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Mmm, nope - no target. You post a lot. In this thread you've posted something that is false and are trying to pass it off as some sort of fact. You claim you are so logical and a wealth of knowledge so you will get no free pass from me or hundreds of others on this site.
Face it.
You've been called out, you were wrong, that's it.
Face it.
You've been called out, you were wrong, that's it.
This all started because I said this
I really wouldn't be that surprised if Porsche consulted on the transmission design.
Last edited by ambystom01; Jul 23, 2009 at 10:37 AM.
Wrong. This was your first statement on the subject:
We've come a long way from that to this:
From "supposedly designed and built" to maybe consulting on the design phase, but not enough to receive credit. Right. You were wrong, but you want us to believe maybe possibly you could be right, but you have no proof, but that's okay - but no its not. That won't cut it.
No one else here is trying to pass a false off as a true.
A first I wasn't sure, I had heard about the Blitzen, but I decided to wait until I had more info. I'm not like you. I don't shoot my mouth off about something I don't have a clue about and then argue on for days about how even though I'm 100% wrong, I really could be right because its up to everyone else to provide more proof. I'm not scared of challenging you by myself.
I fully admit it is likely untrue but I'm not going to completely dismiss it as a possibility either.
You don't jump on things other people say, you clearly ignore them.
Funny how you post right after I first said this and didn't bat an eye to it but a few days later (and after a mod decided to get involved), you man the guns and go after it.
Last edited by GPTourer; Jul 23, 2009 at 12:16 PM.
Wrong. This was your first staetment on the subject. We've come a long way from that to this:
You were wrong, but you want us to believe maybe possibly you could be right, but you have no proof, but that's okay - but no its not. That won't cut it.
No one else here is trying to pass a false off as a true.
A first I wasn't sure myself, I had heard about the Blitzen, but I decided to wait until I had more info. I'm not like you. I don't shoot my mouth off about something I don't have a clue about and then argue on for days about how even though I'm 100% wrong, I really could be right because its up to everyone else to provide proof. I'm not scared of challenging you by myself.
You were wrong, but you want us to believe maybe possibly you could be right, but you have no proof, but that's okay - but no its not. That won't cut it.
No one else here is trying to pass a false off as a true.
A first I wasn't sure myself, I had heard about the Blitzen, but I decided to wait until I had more info. I'm not like you. I don't shoot my mouth off about something I don't have a clue about and then argue on for days about how even though I'm 100% wrong, I really could be right because its up to everyone else to provide proof. I'm not scared of challenging you by myself.
Prove to me Porsche definitely did not assist with the transmission. You seem to be very quick to bash me for not having proof yet you yourself have none.
Once again, I said it was possible, I am not saying it is a definite fact.
The irony of your last statement is outstanding.
Wow so SOA said there is no link, I guess that ends that one
. If you actually read the link I posted, you'll notice it's not clear because the statement made is itself unclear (or just a flatout lie on SOA's part).
. If you actually read the link I posted, you'll notice it's not clear because the statement made is itself unclear (or just a flatout lie on SOA's part).
Although it is hilarious that the link you provided had the response from SOA in the first post and you accuse me of not reading your links, I didn't stop there. My fiance is a service writer at a Jag/Subaru dealer and I asked her to ask the Subie techs and they all said the trans in the Sti was made by Fuji.
Game over.
Game over.
Last edited by GPTourer; Jul 23, 2009 at 12:36 PM.
Although it is hilarious that the link you provided had the response from SOA in the first post and you accuse me of not reading your links, I didn't stop there. My fiance is a service writer at a Jag/Subaru dealer and I asked her to ask the Subie techs and they all said the trans in the Sti was made by Fuji.
Game over.
Game over.
So some techs at Subaru know the inner workings and the origins of the parts they work on? Made by Fuji is fine but that doesn't mean it wasn't designed without outside assistance.



