lets play a game; whats wrong with this engine.
He has a stock 4g64 block not a evo block, the most you can push safely is around 18psi or the rings go.
There's your problem. More boost, and tuning of the timing. Get the AFR's in teh low 11's, decent timing through peak torque (looks about right now, this will depend on the setup) and gently step by step up to 10-12° at 7k, and turn up the boost! 22-23psi peak!
Is this an evo8 or 9? 8's stock cams suck, so you might be about done with it. There may be nothing wrong with this map, except the tune (and arguably lack of mods LOL). Do your homework buddy
Is this an evo8 or 9? 8's stock cams suck, so you might be about done with it. There may be nothing wrong with this map, except the tune (and arguably lack of mods LOL). Do your homework buddy
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lol you have an even bigger problem then your power curves. You have an evo that loses traction on 15-17 psi (stock on the 2.0 is like 18-20 I think) @ mid 200 whp.
Ask a dumbass question with no info to get an informed answer, good one. Yeah these evo guys are here to be tested with your stupid bull****. You dont know what ive accomplished. But i know what youre good at failing, building a 4g64. A kia headswap bumps the CR from 9.5 to 10.2. Your dumbass used a evo head with a smaller combustion camber than the kia head which on the 4g64 block puts you closer to 11 CR than a kia headswap. Thats why when ordering pistons you have to tell them is you have 4g64 w/ 4g63 head, as they have differnt compression heights. But as you've never ordered pistons for the 4g64 you wouldnt know this.
More than likely some of your valves are slightly bent since theres no relieve cuffs in the stock 4g64 pistons. Out of all the 3gs with headswaps youre the only one to run the stock evo head with stock 4g64 block, that im awear of. Which is whyyou made no significant power. You couldve made that with the stock sohc head. Your cams are set at -7/-8 with stock evo cams, you have a stock 3g fuel pump that can barely push 160LPH, and you wonder why you can only barely break 230whp.
An waste these guys time askin whys my **** so ****ed up. lol You used the wrong timing belt thats too tight to properly line up your cams. You blew tons of cash on a failed project that now needs to be taken to a professional to fix all your screwups.
Well I decided to find the forum your fail build is on, so everyone can laugh at you.Check out these links for his Epic Failure Threads
http://www.club3g.com/forum/3g-eclip...w-malachi.html
http://www.club3g.com/forum/rs-gs/12...-evo-dohc.html
You sir FAIL, and a EPIC fail at that!!
More than likely some of your valves are slightly bent since theres no relieve cuffs in the stock 4g64 pistons. Out of all the 3gs with headswaps youre the only one to run the stock evo head with stock 4g64 block, that im awear of. Which is whyyou made no significant power. You couldve made that with the stock sohc head. Your cams are set at -7/-8 with stock evo cams, you have a stock 3g fuel pump that can barely push 160LPH, and you wonder why you can only barely break 230whp.
An waste these guys time askin whys my **** so ****ed up. lol You used the wrong timing belt thats too tight to properly line up your cams. You blew tons of cash on a failed project that now needs to be taken to a professional to fix all your screwups.
Well I decided to find the forum your fail build is on, so everyone can laugh at you.Check out these links for his Epic Failure Threads
http://www.club3g.com/forum/3g-eclip...w-malachi.html
http://www.club3g.com/forum/rs-gs/12...-evo-dohc.html
You sir FAIL, and a EPIC fail at that!!
Last edited by 3gEclipseTurbo; Apr 21, 2010 at 07:04 PM.
Wow...
You expected to throw an EVO head on a stock 4g64 block and make power?
I'm guessing you used a stock headgasket so CR is probably pretty high and you set the cams -4 back to avoid hitting the pistons so that's probably why it makes no power.
Anything more then 15psi and it would probably blow up.
You expected to throw an EVO head on a stock 4g64 block and make power?
I'm guessing you used a stock headgasket so CR is probably pretty high and you set the cams -4 back to avoid hitting the pistons so that's probably why it makes no power.
Anything more then 15psi and it would probably blow up.
Last edited by project_skyline; Apr 22, 2010 at 01:35 AM.
Wow...
You expected to throw an EVO head on a stock 4g64 block and make power?
I'm guessing you used a stock headgasket so CR is probably pretty high and you set the cams -4 back to avoid hitting the pistons so that's probably why it makes no power.
Anything more then 15psi and it would probably blow up.
You expected to throw an EVO head on a stock 4g64 block and make power?
I'm guessing you used a stock headgasket so CR is probably pretty high and you set the cams -4 back to avoid hitting the pistons so that's probably why it makes no power.
Anything more then 15psi and it would probably blow up.
i would have to say i used the EVO gastket. i wouldnt have used the eclipse one. im not 100% sure, it was a while ago.
so your saying the -4/-4 is why my curve falls off? what would you recommend?
EDIT: O, and i have been running 15 PSI, for a while now. its been 17 the last few months. as soon as i get a new boost gauge, im going to 20.
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In any case this evo was tested on our dyno period and the owner was tuning the car himself. To say slanderous things toward us very juvenile and unethical.
I am not sure why all this vent up anger toward us and to be honest that is great that you care to take the car to some one else to have it worked on or tuned. If you dont trust the tuner or shop then dont take it there. Even if you gave me 5 grand to tune your bucket we would pass on it.
Why dont you come over to a scheduled Dyno Day to see how AWEFUL we really are.
^i'm pretty sure that it's been confirmed that this car is not an evo. i'm not questioning your tuning ability/customer service, I'm just saying a typo like that can screw your credibility
