EDIT: Tests were done on a 1G turbo Talon, NOT an Evo, to clarify.

OK,

Just when you think you have read it all. Something crazy pops up. I like to like at import tuner every so often. Well thats when i saw this BS. I am not 100%, but i am not sure how true this can be. So thats where you guys come in.

Ok in the nov 2003 issuse. they talk about cheap HP. They got 106hp I am guessing at the flywheel. for 604$. I have been wanting to post this forever, but been lazy.

Well first thing is first.apexi downpipe.

Got 36 HP. 30 pounds of TQ WtF.....!!! how!

Next HKS FCD that addes 47 HP Boooo wtf

Holly fuel pump 23 Hp OMG

something smells fishy.... I dont understand please lets talk

thats 106 hp. If it was soooo easy. then everyone else would do it right. haha DUmb ****. someone fill me in.

Thanks

 

hmmm $604??? im in

 

Maybe the editor was a dumbass and it should have been 10.6 hp! That would seem more conceivable to me!

 

As I recall, that was for a Talon wasn't it, not an Evo?

 

but there is not that much of a differences. for something like that. i can understand if the boost went crazy to 25 psi, or something with the FCD..

 

There are plenty of differences. The car is rated at 195hp at the crank, has a very restrictive exhaust and is limited to around 9-11 psi stock. People have gotten very respectable times out of the stock 14b turbo (which is a lot better then the stock T25 in the 2G's)

 

so you think, its the car its self. not so much those mods? if done to an evo would so little results???

please dont flame ME

 

Yes, I am saying those same mods done to an Evo would yield wonderous results, just not as big a percent gain change as compared to a 1G, overall the Evo would still be far more powerful due to its better manifolds, better/bigger turbo, bigger injectors, etc. They were still running a lot of boost (I think) with the FCD, so getting one big dyno number off of a couple of dyno runs might sell magzines, but it might not be so good for long term life.

 

newbie question: FCD?

 

Fuel Cut Defencer. Too many airflow mods on a DSM with a stock computer will cause fuel cut where the ECU basically goes into fail safe mode where it thinks some damage is about to occur. The FCD will intercept those signals and massage them so you can continue making more horsepower. The downside is boost can get way out of hand and your fuel needs could exceed your fuel system's ability to keep up.

 

Most fuel cut defencers trick the ECU by modifying some input that comes from the MAF. Unfortunately, they also usually have horrid side-affects because they are altering some of the 3 signals that come from the MAF.

In a DSM ECU, this usually results in sky-high timing advance. People have cracked pistons doing similar things.

It is a bad idea to use one. Get rid of fuel cut at the source, the ECU.

 

Back when I was a DSM guy on www.dsmtalk.com, there was SOME NUT who ran a 1G AWD 6 bolt to a LOW 12 at 107 MPH with about $500 in mods.


Ran race gas, big boost, and no exhuaust but he tuned accordingly. The stock 1G Turbo DSM's are VERY corked up in the power department and many a free ponys can be had.

 

I agree, but the performance increases posted above are extremely high, based on my experience. Like, unbelievably high.

--Dan
Mach V
MachEVO.com

 

They got 106hp I am guessing at the flywheel. for 604$. I
Well first thing is first.apexi downpipe.

Actually they claim this figure at the wheels, I read this article, being a 1G DSM owner who wouldnt, and I agree that they should re-calibrate their dyno because this is on the stick 14B and if I remember correctly they did not have a boost controller either.

 

Welcome to DSM world

First off the exhaust system is very restrictive, so freeing that up allows you to increase boost (due to opening up breathing), and then comes the FCD, That isn't really necessary if a bigger fuel pump is put in but it allows you to increase boost without hitting fuel cut, and then once again the fuel pump increases fuel so you can up the air intake. I have to agree with you 106hp increase doesn't seem right (probably 60-80hp seems more realistic), but the 14b on the 1g is similar in flow to the 16g, and the 16g is capable of around 300hp.

A 1g with $500 of mods will give your stock evo a pretty even run ;]

You'd be amazed by how easily your evo is going to barf out "free" hp. The HP is there, by increasing the boost and putting in the right supporting mods you are technically "freeing" up "free hp". Actually I take that back, I believe the evo is already at 19psi stock, at most you can probably increase it to 22psi, not much room left. But as gptourer mentioned earlier 1g's come stock at 10psi or something, so you could imagine what results would come about if you double the psi.