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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 10:35 AM
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Do you believe that this car can compare to the likes of a Ferrari 458?
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The Ferrari 458 would destroy it, not even close.
sure they can compare, in general. but nitpicking at exact 'numbers', may not be fair...
certainly the specs/dimensions/performance would suggest that these 2 are aiming for each other, but toyota had something else in mind for the LFA. the 458 was meant to be a regular production supercar, readily available to anyone with $250k (well that, and another $30-60k under the table, so that the dealer actually gets them one today, rather than 3 years from now ), while the LFA was designed solely with exclusivity in mind.
besides, whether or not the ferrari is faster by ~2 seconds around some track, or .03 faster in the 1/4 is barely a valid argument! ferrari has been making supercars for 60 years... their latest model better be faster than toyotas first "attempt".
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by S6devil
sure they can compare, in general. but nitpicking at exact 'numbers', may not be fair...
certainly the specs/dimensions/performance would suggest that these 2 are aiming for each other, but toyota had something else in mind for the LFA. the 458 was meant to be a regular production supercar, readily available to anyone with $250k (well that, and another $30-60k under the table, so that the dealer actually gets them one today, rather than 3 years from now ), while the LFA was designed solely with exclusivity in mind.
besides, whether or not the ferrari is faster by ~2 seconds around some track, or .03 faster in the 1/4 is barely a valid argument! ferrari has been making supercars for 60 years... their latest model better be faster than toyotas first "attempt".
That makes sense. But the LFA is way underpowered for it's price. It is neck and neck with the GTR for gods sakes. You can buy a GTR and house for the price of the LFA.
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by cs82685
not to be an ***, but I'm confused about the whole 'this is a preproduction' thing there are none available yet to customers, etc. When there's another thread in here of an LFA that is seemingly already in the possession of a guy in jersey. Did you take all this info from kind of an old thread elsewhere or is toyota just feeding this guy a line of bull?
Originally Posted by Tray@Forged
This yellow LFA just left New Jersey. I'm sure it is the same one.

I can assure you from the corporate rep that came by there are only 2 in the country. One on the east coast, and one on the west coast. They are going to dealerships, events, shows, and letting the people who have already purchased one spend some time with it.
To back up Tray, yes this is in fact the SAME EXACT ONE that was in NJ.

My sister works for Donald Trump at Trump National Golf Course in Bedminster, NJ.

She said that the Lexus rep was there and that NO ONE owns this car and this is the pre-production model, they were there letting anyone who was a member of the club drive it and take a test drive to potentially sell more of them.
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by High_PSI
That makes sense. But the LFA is way underpowered for it's price. It is neck and neck with the GTR for gods sakes. You can buy a GTR and house for the price of the LFA.
again, you cant compare prices... You, meaning a reasonable enthusiast and car nut, who one day has a chance to own a Ferrari.
the LFA was developed for PR purposes, only to be sold to those, who already own 7 Ferraris, and are not looking for 'ultimate' performance

But if all people look for is 'bang for the buck', then we all know the best solution is a vette....
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 06:46 PM
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I'm sure HKS Japan has a turbokit for that thing already!!!
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 07:03 PM
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Right on Sharif......I wish I was up there long enough to see this car arrive to Forged Performance. I recently had work done with your shop and very pleased and impressed with the staff. My Evo RS feels great and crisp in the shifts. Hopefully I will be in your shop soon for more work.

Great review of the LF-A. Very lucky to experience a ride like that.
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by S6devil
again, you cant compare prices... You, meaning a reasonable enthusiast and car nut, who one day has a chance to own a Ferrari.
the LFA was developed for PR purposes, only to be sold to those, who already own 7 Ferraris, and are not looking for 'ultimate' performance

But if all people look for is 'bang for the buck', then we all know the best solution is a vette....
I still think the price should warrant something MUCH more amazing and powerful. Sure it is a great car but the price knocks it way down, PR tool or not it needs to be a true giant killer and it is not. At the base price of US$375,000 it down right stinks in terms of performance I mean that has to be equated. The transmission also shifts slowly in comparison of the GTR!!! That is unacceptable. It should really be below 100MS. The power is OK, could use 100 more. I love the high compression ratio on pump gas that is amazing. The handling is king but the Speed is really C6 territory. The car is a little heavy too IMHO and needs to get under that 3000 Pound mark.


Official specifications and performance figures for the Lexus LFA are as follows:[57]
Engine type 1LR-GUE 72° V10 Valvetrain DOHC 4-valves/cylinder, dual VVT-i
Displacement 4,805 cc (293.2 cu in) Bore x Stroke 88 × 79 mm (3.5 × 3.1 in)
Compression Ratio 12.0:1 Redline 9000 rpm (rev limiter 9500 rpm)
Transmission 6-speed ASG Minimum shift times 200 ms or 150 ms
Power 560 PS (412 kW; 552 hp) @ 8700 rpm Torque 480 N·m (354 ft·lbf) @ 6800 rpm
Curb weight 1,480 kg (3,263 lb) Power-to-weight 5.9 lb/hp
Weight distribution 49.8:50.2 (front:rear) Top speed 326 km/h (203 mph)
0-60 mph (97 km/h) 3.6 sec.[39] (official, w/o launch control)[45] 0-100 km/h (62 mph) 3.7 sec.
[edit] Performance

Tested performance specifications for the Lexus LFA from Car and Driver†, Motor Trend‡, and Road & Track†† are as follows:

0-100 mph (160 km/h) 7.8 sec.[60]† Braking (60 mph (97 km/h)-0) <94 ft (29 m)[63]‡
0-130 mph (210 km/h) 12.9 sec.[60]† Braking (70 mph (110 km/h)-0) 156 ft (48 m)[60]†
0-150 mph (240 km/h) 18.3 sec.[60]† Slalom 74.2 mph (119.4 km/h)[64]††
1⁄4 mi (400 m) 11.8 sec.[60] (@ 124 mph (200 km/h))† Lateral acceleration 1.00 G[60] (200 feet (61 m) skidpad)†; 1.05 G [63]‡
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by High_PSI
I still think the price should warrant something MUCH more amazing and powerful. Sure it is a great car but the price knocks it way down, PR tool or not it needs to be a true giant killer and it is not. At the base price of US$375,000 it down right stinks in terms of performance I mean that has to be equated.
i dont think it had to be a "giant killer", it simply had to be a one-off, uber limited edition super car, in a way, not unlike the Enzo, when that came out. keep in mind the enzo cost twice what the LFA does. as I said, people who can afford the LFA wont care that its 1 second slower around soem track. they will mostly care that they have a vehicle that no one else in town has.

and in general, performance is subjective as much as it is objective, and not always what the potential buyer is looking for. a $20 casio will tell time as good, as a $80,000 patek philippe. but thats always the aspect what you base the price on, when buying a watch
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 06MRV8Killer
She said that the Lexus rep was there and that NO ONE owns this car and this is the pre-production model, they were there letting anyone who was a member of the club drive it and take a test drive to potentially sell more of them.
Lexus would have us to believe that the car is sold out already.
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by GPTourer
Lexus would have us to believe that the car is sold out already.
I don't know if each one to be produced has been sold. I was just relaying what my sister said that the rep said.

I mean it makes sense if the rep goes to a place like Trump National Golf Course where the annual membership fee is $20,000 and the initiation fee of $150,000 that these people have the money to buy whatever they wish.

If someone was interested in getting their hands on something like this then it would most likely go up the chain of command and they would take note and if there was a strong enough demand maybe Lexus would consider producing more.

She said 2 of her members got the chance to drive it and they did not have one on order but loved the car

I personally think that the price tag is out of control but then again there is always a price tag attached to exclusivity
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 06MRV8Killer
I don't know if each one to be produced has been sold.
That's what I mean, that is the impression that Lexus' PR machine has indicated. That the entire production run of the vehicle has been sold out. They sent out letters to people whom they deemed worthy to own the car, and enough of them have supposedly put their deposits down to have the entire run of cars spoken for.

It doesn't surprise me that you got a different story from the rep your sister spoke to, as in I don't believe they have sold all the cars already.
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 11:53 AM
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^ah gotcha now I know what your saying, yeah I called her this afternoon and talked to her more about it and from what I could gather (her not being that into cars besides saying they "look pretty" ) it sounds like they were trying to encourage interest to buy.
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 11:57 AM
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yellow.does not do it. Justice.
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