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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 08:49 AM
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Let them put a turbo in an NSX, hey add Nitrous while you're at it, I'll still smoke anything Honda puts out, 6 ways till Sunday.

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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 10:26 AM
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I don't think they'll build it with a V8, so a turbo V6 would be the way to get 400hp, unless they do an electric motor assist like that Eclipse concept.
Why not NA? 400 HP from a 3.5L V6 is 114 per liter. Ferrari's 360 gets 400 from 3.6L (425 in CS trim), BMW gets 333 out of 3.2L, etc. I'd be really disappointed if Honda couldn't get 110-115 N.A. HP/L out of their V6.
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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 10:44 AM
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Honda is an amazing company the build many things as well as Mitsu do you guys know that Mitsu build Tanks, yes war frekking Tanks. anyways, In the end honda will switch slowly to turbos though they do beleive that turbos are to much hassle to deal with as well as too many problems however that is wrong right now. Turbos were peace of **** 20 years ago but now after the good strong metrial they put in them they became extremly reliable. I have heared and read about Hydroturbos that we will see very soon on cars and they are quiter about half the size and much stronger. you can read about them on the web. in the end Honda makes great 2.0 engines, i had S2000 and RSX but they are falling behind these days.
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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 10:49 AM
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the new NSX
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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 10:52 AM
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The engine of the HSC is similar V6 horizontal ranging to the current NSX, but the aerodynamic volume displacement is expanded by 3.5 liters, and a horsepower output is also likely to become exaggerated 300 ps. Shifting is done through a dial system which make fast speed change possible, the steering wheel has race car like paddle shift paddles. As for the suspension with the front and back double wishbone, from current model and the dimensions of the rear suspension of the car widen substantially.
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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 10:55 AM
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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 10:56 AM
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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 03:09 PM
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Why not NA? 400 HP from a 3.5L V6 is 114 per liter. Ferrari's 360 gets 400 from 3.6L (425 in CS trim), BMW gets 333 out of 3.2L, etc. I'd be really disappointed if Honda couldn't get 110-115 N.A. HP/L out of their V6.
I didn't say it was impossible to get 400hp from a NA 3.5L V6. The Modena makes 400hp from 3.6L but that is a V8 that gets low gas mileage, in a car that costs roughly twice as much as the NSX. I think Honda is certainly capable of making 350-380hp from a NA 3.5L V6, but to get to 400hp, there must be certain tradeoffs in cost and gas mileage. Their current NSX gets decent gas mileage (17/24).
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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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I didn't say it was impossible to get 400hp from a NA 3.5L V6. The Modena makes 400hp from 3.6L but that is a V8 that gets low gas mileage, in a car that costs roughly twice as much as the NSX. I think Honda is certainly capable of making 350-380hp from a NA 3.5L V6, but to get to 400hp, there must be certain tradeoffs in cost and gas mileage. Their current NSX gets decent gas mileage (17/24).
GM gets 400hp out of a V8 with 19/28 gas mileage
I think that, if Honda wanted to, they could do it, but the cost of the final product might just be too high to justify it for them.
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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 07:07 PM
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GM gets 400hp out of a V8 with 19/28 gas mileage
I think that, if Honda wanted to, they could do it, but the cost of the final product might just be too high to justify it for them.
Honda managed to wring 120/L out of the F20C. There are easier and cheaper ways to get 240 HP out of a small motor, but cheap and easy isn't always the route Honda takes, especially with its flagship automobiles.
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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by ru4real
I didn't say it was impossible to get 400hp from a NA 3.5L V6. The Modena makes 400hp from 3.6L but that is a V8 that gets low gas mileage, in a car that costs roughly twice as much as the NSX. I think Honda is certainly capable of making 350-380hp from a NA 3.5L V6, but to get to 400hp, there must be certain tradeoffs in cost and gas mileage. Their current NSX gets decent gas mileage (17/24).
Very good points. Going the route of a turbo will carry the same penalties in cost, mileage, and likely emissions. IMO, if they did go turbo, it would probably be on a smaller motor (3.0L V6?)
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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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Honda managed to wring 120/L out of the F20C. There are easier and cheaper ways to get 240 HP out of a small motor, but cheap and easy isn't always the route Honda takes, especially with its flagship automobiles.
All one has to do is look at the price of the NSX to figure that out... What I really meant was that it just might cost more than $100k for the car when all is said and done if they tried to keep the good gas mileage and go for a lot of power out of a small(ish) engine, which is pretty much what ru4real said. They're competing with the GT3 now, and they don't want to price their car too far above the Porsche if they want it to sell.
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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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In today's presentation to a standing room only crowd at the Detroit Auto Show, Honda President and CEO Takeo ***ui threw down the gauntlet by stating the upcoming NSX will have no rivals. The following is a quote from his speech. We will post the full text of the speech later.

"This type of commitment is also the reason we make vehicles like the Acura NSX and Honda S2000. The production volume is small, but the value is high - both for our customers and for the Honda engineers who develop these vehicles. And that is the thinking behind the HSC concept car that you can see at the Acura stand. This model will serve as the basis for the next generation NSX you will see within a few years. We are committed to achieve the industry best performance, NO RIVAL EXISTS FOR THIS VEHICLE."
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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 06:17 AM
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In today's presentation to a standing room only crowd at the Detroit Auto Show, Honda President and CEO Takeo ***ui threw down the gauntlet by stating the upcoming NSX will have no rivals. The following is a quote from his speech. We will post the full text of the speech later.

"This type of commitment is also the reason we make vehicles like the Acura NSX and Honda S2000. The production volume is small, but the value is high - both for our customers and for the Honda engineers who develop these vehicles. And that is the thinking behind the HSC concept car that you can see at the Acura stand. This model will serve as the basis for the next generation NSX you will see within a few years. We are committed to achieve the industry best performance, NO RIVAL EXISTS FOR THIS VEHICLE."
This further reinforces my belief that the next generation NSX will be a hybrid.
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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 07:07 AM
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