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Thinking about upgrading to the CLA 45AMG. Should I?

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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 12:12 PM
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 01:59 PM
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Ive driven just about every AMG produced from having to work on them, and the only one that excited me to want to own was the clk63 amg Black series (if money wasn't a factor). That one actually drove and felt like Mercedes was trying to build a fun car.
Just curious if you've ever driven one of the cars in my avatar?
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 02:08 PM
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Unless you've got a lot of disposable income I wouldn't waste the time. Your Evo isn't going to depreciate much in the next couple years whereas that CLA will lose over half it's value if it's driven at all.
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 02:25 PM
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sell your evo to someone who will appreciate it!
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 03:20 PM
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Yes. Mitsubishi stopped building competitive cars 7 years ago. Everything modern is leagues ahead of Evo's.
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by kpt6
Just curious if you've ever driven one of the cars in my avatar?

The pic in your avatar? its a small pic, but looks like a clk63 amg black series. I have driven one of those before.
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by silvertune
Unless you've got a lot of disposable income I wouldn't waste the time. Your Evo isn't going to depreciate much in the next couple years whereas that CLA will lose over half it's value if it's driven at all.
Just wait 3 years and Im sure you will find a used CLA45 AMG for around 28ish.
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TommiM
The pic in your avatar? its a small pic, but looks like a clk63 amg black series. I have driven one of those before.
It's an SL black series.
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by kpt6
It's an SL black series.

SL AMG variants, Sl55s, SL63s, SL65 bi turbo, but not the black series one.
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 07:12 PM
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Yes. Mitsubishi stopped building competitive cars 7 years ago. Everything modern is leagues ahead of Evo's.
It's crazy how big of a shift there was. Within the US, the CT9A were EXTREMELY competitive during that period. They were really giving a lot of cars a hard time. Road & Track had thrown in an Evo VII in one of their best handling car comparisons, and it did VERY well. I remember Road & Track did an article comparing the IX MR with the Cayman S... and the Evo was faster to accelerate (though the Cayman was pretty much ahead past the quarter-mile marker) and quicker around their track. The closing of the article even said something about how they thought it would be foolish to not consider one if you were considering the other... which is a huge statement, especially when they already acknowledged that the Cayman had the edge in driver involvement along with the Evo's interior sucking. (Even the STI had its kudos... Edmunds tested it against the Mustang Bullitt, which it smoked in every measurable aspect of performance, and I think Hot Rod or one of those magazines tested it against that year's GT500, and I think the STI won that too.)

But after that, it seemed like everything else advanced by leaps and bounds while the Evo and STI just baby-stepped (and took steps back in some areas too, arguably). But I guess I understand that you can only push a four-cylinder so far (at least in production spec) with the budgets that they work with.
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DeeezNuuuts83
It's crazy how big of a shift there was. Within the US, the CT9A were EXTREMELY competitive during that period. They were really giving a lot of cars a hard time. Road & Track had thrown in an Evo VII in one of their best handling car comparisons, and it did VERY well. I remember Road & Track did an article comparing the IX MR with the Cayman S... and the Evo was faster to accelerate (though the Cayman was pretty much ahead past the quarter-mile marker) and quicker around their track. The closing of the article even said something about how they thought it would be foolish to not consider one if you were considering the other... which is a huge statement, especially when they already acknowledged that the Cayman had the edge in driver involvement along with the Evo's interior sucking. (Even the STI had its kudos... Edmunds tested it against the Mustang Bullitt, which it smoked in every measurable aspect of performance, and I think Hot Rod or one of those magazines tested it against that year's GT500, and I think the STI won that too.)

But after that, it seemed like everything else advanced by leaps and bounds while the Evo and STI just baby-stepped (and took steps back in some areas too, arguably). But I guess I understand that you can only push a four-cylinder so far (at least in production spec) with the budgets that they work with.
so true. i think the 06-07 evo/sti actually ignited this somewhat.. i doubt 911s and m3s were all that happy with these cheap japanese cars giving them a run for their money, and once the gtr came out it was game over and everyone HAD to up their game.. ten years ago it was conceivable (somewhat) to compare evo performance with a 911 carrera.. today, not so much.
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 07:48 PM
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so true. i think the 06-07 evo/sti actually ignited this somewhat.. i doubt 911s and m3s were all that happy with these cheap japanese cars giving them a run for their money, and once the gtr came out it was game over and everyone HAD to up their game.. ten years ago it was conceivable (somewhat) to compare evo performance with a 911 carrera.. today, not so much.
It's funny that you say that. I remember before I bought my first Evo in early 2006, a friend of mine was talking about how much faster Porsches were, and he looked up online that the 911 Carrera S at the time (which would've been one of the earlier 997s) did the 0-60 in 4.5 or something, and that there was no way an Evo could've competed with that. A few minutes later, I dug up some issue where the Evo also did it in 4.5, and he was really surprised.

I feel like Porsche always has to do something to strike back, particularly if it's threated by something Japanese. Again, with the GT-R example, they were able to "beat" it (and by that, I mean in the hp and torque department along with acceleration times) with the Turbo S model (which is a lot more expensive than the regular strength Turbo), though of course most readers won't pay attention to those details... as you'll never see a GT-R against a standard Turbo if there is a Turbo S model available, even if it does cost nearly $33k more than the "regular" Turbo (which is already just under $149k). But hey, they're still cool cars. I wouldn't mind owning one. But their prices are insane, especially when you spec it to your preference.
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 08:10 PM
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i mean, of course they have to, it's porsche, performance is their game. i think the same thing happened in the early 90s when the nsx first came out, supercars back then had to up their game too..
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 08:14 PM
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I was going to mention that, but I feel like Ferrari made a bigger response than Porsche did
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 01:47 PM
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Well a little off topic, but just wanted to say that yesterday we got in a new E class with the OM651 bi turbo diesel. 189 hp/369 ft lbs. rev limiter looks like 4500 ish rpm. The turbo setup uses a smaller turbo inline to help spool up the larger turbo, then it bypasses to the larger turbo at higher flow demands. Anyhow, this new motor has much better response the M271EVO 4 cyl gas turbo variant. Lag almost not existent, Better low end and lots more power overall. If/when they decide to put this in a c-class coupe I wouldn't mind considering one. Maybe an option to consider over the CLA45AMG??
For similar price, I think Id rather chose this, and probably would be a little less when they put it in the C class.

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