oh don't get me wrong, I completely agree... but the Camaro Z28 is a righteous animal in its own right also... just cause I like one doesn't mean I have to hate the other. I'd own both if I could afford it

 

how about the hellcat? that car sounds insane!

 

hellcat is more of a straightline car... It turns ok, but nothing compared to the Z28 and what the GT350 is promised to be...

 

Yeah, my fanboyism came out there a bit . I just never really liked the Camaro -especially in that Michael Bay film. Great marketing ploy, but I thought, that generation is just ugly as sin and will never capture the true spirit of yester Camaro's. While the Z28 is being represented well in previous gen spec., I can't help but think its more of a poser(base, SS trims) with its gimicky slanted windows-I'm saying is more show then go.

 

Aesthetically and marketing wise I agree, but trust me, the Z28 is no poser. I got a ride in one at the last track day I was at, it's one of the most insane and capable cars I've ever been in. And I'm talking strictly chassis... Power is easy with an LS7... For the record I've driven and gotten rides in Porsches and Ferraris... Also, the fact that a lot of previously hardcore GT3 track nuts are switching over to the Z28 is a huge testament to the fact that the Z28 is all business

That being said, the Z28 is the only Camaro I've even sat in... And honestly the only trim I'd wanna own out of this gen

 

Z28 a poser i think not. The sound alone scares small children.

 

Another.

 

I am thinking this is the first time he has driven a "fast" car. He doesn't look comfortable driving it at anytime.

 

Jalopnik. V6. Wall. Go home hooner boy, we're only allowing real publications to cover this car.
At least he admitted fault and they had the cajones to make a video of it.

 

Good to see all the world class drivers on EvoM in force...

Rally drivers never botch a turn, amirite?

Belle Isle doesn't have runoffs. You screw up, you're in a wall.

Let me guess, you never screw up.

Going captain hero and trying to drift the car out of a turn probably ends worse in that case.

I'm not sure he's really a novice. Certainly he's not Chris Harris or even Jeremy Clarkson, but he's not a beat writer who's never in a car.

The camera in your face does change things.

You think the C&D/MT/R&T writers have never stuffed a car?

 

I didn't say I never screw up, however, I've never put a car into a wall. Worst I've had was 2 wheels off, and had the car spin out on me, kept it on track though..

 

dont mind him

 

And if you had done that at Belle Isle, you'd probably have hit a tire wall, or worse.


Go to 1:15, that's the turn he biffs it on. Tell me where you're going to put your two tires off and keep it on the track.

 

I never said anything that related to my skill level vs the guy in the video. What I commented on was merely my observations from watching the video. I saw understeer followed up by turning the wheel more...I also never said to go captain drifttown but rather provide some insight as to what would have been a preferred method to dial back the understeer.

 

Nope, you called him a "novice" implying he's a no talent assclown who doesn't belong in a press car.

Your suggestion for unwinding and breaking is absolutely the right thing to do... except in this instance, instead of biffing the front quarter panel, you would have gone head on into a wall. The other guy who suggested stabbing the brakes and throttling thru the turn would have put the rear quarter panel, if not the whole driver side, into the wall. There just isn't room there to save the car in that instance.

He went too fast into the turn. That's it. It's a mistake many of us have made, and if we didn't stuff our car, it's because we were at a better track than Belle Isle.