Magazin driver crashes the new camaro
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Magazin driver crashes the new camaro
here is one grain and salt magazine driver.
0 control when **** hits the fan.
Always seems to me , they looking for more of the "talkers" then "drivers".
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Joined: Jan 2007
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From: Park Ridge N.J.
i feel bad for him too, he is just another clueless sheep with probably excellent connections... 



how you guys like this idea, i swear rally sooner or later will be huge here... lol
usa car makers started building "rally" cars now it is a time for trucks..........





http://blog.caranddriver.com/the-ora...ally-editions/




how you guys like this idea, i swear rally sooner or later will be huge here... lol
usa car makers started building "rally" cars now it is a time for trucks..........






http://blog.caranddriver.com/the-ora...ally-editions/
My dad's camaro ZL-1 does the same ****. A stab of the brakes unsettles the car and makes it rotate nicely. Then you pick up the throttle once the back end starts coming around, countersteer, and throttle out.
As opposed to panicking and letting the car drive into the wall...lol
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He reacted the same exact way any "novice" driver reacts in an understeer situation and is the exact opposite thing as to what's needed.
Typical mindset "hmmm car is understeering I better turn the wheel more" In reality the front tires are out of grip so your options are to unwind the wheel some, let off the gas to help settle the front end or a touch of brake sorta like trail braking to help plant the front.
The easiest and safest option IMO is a combination of unwinding the wheel and letting off the gas and that'll typically do it for you but brakes help as well just as long as you are conscious of what's going on and are prepared for the backend to come around.
Typical mindset "hmmm car is understeering I better turn the wheel more" In reality the front tires are out of grip so your options are to unwind the wheel some, let off the gas to help settle the front end or a touch of brake sorta like trail braking to help plant the front.
The easiest and safest option IMO is a combination of unwinding the wheel and letting off the gas and that'll typically do it for you but brakes help as well just as long as you are conscious of what's going on and are prepared for the backend to come around.
As much as i dont like that dumb web site still hate to see a new car wrecked.. accidents happen though when you get novice drivers on track with a camera in there face while talking and driving and being distracted.
so he's understeering... front tires, which do most of the braking, already don't have grip, and being a novice driver I'm thinking he's already on the brakes going into the corner... I don't think stabbing the brakes in that particular situation would have done much...
giving a quick stab to the brakes before the terminal understeer starts (or maybe just on the very start of understeer), yes would help... but at the point where he realized he was in trouble, more brakes wouldn't help
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if you look at his right leg, it looks like he does go for the brake once in understeer...
giving a quick stab to the brakes before the terminal understeer starts (or maybe just on the very start of understeer), yes would help... but at the point where he realized he was in trouble, more brakes wouldn't help
edit:
if you look at his right leg, it looks like he does go for the brake once in understeer...
so he's understeering... front tires, which do most of the braking, already don't have grip, and being a novice driver I'm thinking he's already on the brakes going into the corner... I don't think stabbing the brakes in that particular situation would have done much...
giving a quick stab to the brakes before the terminal understeer starts (or maybe just on the very start of understeer), yes would help... but at the point where he realized he was in trouble, more brakes wouldn't help
edit:
if you look at his right leg, it looks like he does go for the brake once in understeer...
giving a quick stab to the brakes before the terminal understeer starts (or maybe just on the very start of understeer), yes would help... but at the point where he realized he was in trouble, more brakes wouldn't help
edit:
if you look at his right leg, it looks like he does go for the brake once in understeer...
It definitely works. You're not using the brakes to slow the car. The brakes unsettle the car, and start rotation by transferring weight forward. I've done this plenty of times. It works in the ZL1, and it works in my Evo. It also works in my offroad car. Its exactly what you do when you're carrying too much speed into an unexpected (or sharper than the GPS indicated) corner..
It definitely works. You're not using the brakes to slow the car. The brakes unsettle the car, and start rotation by transferring weight forward. I've done this plenty of times. It works in the ZL1, and it works in my Evo. It also works in my offroad car. Its exactly what you do when you're carrying too much speed into an unexpected (or sharper than the GPS indicated) corner..









