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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 08:07 PM
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Stock evo vs. Trans Am

My friend has an 84 Trans Am with a 350 (5.7L) engine, flow master exhaust, Jet Performance chip, shift kit, stall converter (its an auto) and I think thats it, well anyways, he swears up and down that he can OWN a stock evo in a race, I dont know WHO would win..... I have never ridden in an evo but, his car is 4100 pounds and its just......... huge, I told him I think the evo would win, and we havent found an evo to race, so we have never found out the REAL way...... tell me your opinions....... BTW, this is drag race. Thanks.
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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84 didnt have a 350 as an option.... the highest stock hp rating was 190, so ya the evo will destroy it....

unless its got a 350 engine swap..

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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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Yea, he has a 350 engine swap.
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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Tell him to go to the 1/4 mile drag strip and get his ET's. If it's high 12's very low 13's i'd say he got us beat.

350 came out on the IROC 1987 or something so it's probably a newer engine.
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 08:21 PM
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Well, a trans am with an aftermarket 350 could do pretty well, but if then engine is more or less stock with a TPI setup.. it may see 250hp with an aftermarket exhaust, cam, filter, and hypertech chip..

HOWEVER since its an 84, it could have had Crossfire injection or a 305 with a Carburetor.. the CFI motor stock was 190hp and the 305 was 160.. If the car is more or less stock, but with a new 350 block, you'll win..
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 08:22 PM
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dunno... I saw my friends STi get crushed by a WS6 though ...lol

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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 08:23 PM
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I should warn you though.. I had a 83 Z28 with a 350 chevy engine, and a few bolt ons (alot of work done on the car and it was expensive at the time) and I ran in the 12's but it was not with any stock components and the motor was built by a local speed shop..
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 08:23 PM
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I dont think he can get 12's on 1/4, its an auto =\ ya never know....... BTW, he has some rs700 transmission he says, its supposed to be better than the 'turbo400' he says.....
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 08:25 PM
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hehe.. a TH-700R4 its basically a 4 speed auto with overdrive.. has alot of potential but were pretty crappy until about 1988.. These cars need gears to get them out of their own way.. which means with gears they have terrible top end also.
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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Yea, thats what he has MalibuJack.
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 08:29 PM
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What about the weight issue? doesnt the evo weight like a 1000 less?
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 08:33 PM
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hehe.. a TH-700R4 its basically a 4 speed auto with overdrive.. has alot of potential but were pretty crappy until about 1988.. These cars need gears to get them out of their own way.. which means with gears they have terrible top end also.
The 700R4 was a raging piece of crap, just like it's electronic successor the 4L60E. The gears are too small and even built ones tend to grenade under any sort of power. Most low-11 second and faster F-Bods go to TH400s or their electronic cousin, the 4L80E.

The only nice thing about them is that they're plentiful and cheap.
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 08:46 PM
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Ahh, you must have owned a Mustang..

Anyway your right, not the best tranny, but with some of the aftermarket companies I dealt with, I had a built B&M tranny, and an Art Carr built tranny.. neither failed, but I wanted one with a better first gear.

There was one major advantage to the 700r4 and the reason I chose it was the Overdrive, I was able to run 3.73 gears and still had decent highway RPM..

HOWEVER, unless his car is deep into the low 12's I doubt he'll be able to keep up off the line anyway..
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by MrBonus


The 700R4 was a raging piece of crap, just like it's electronic successor the 4L60E. The gears are too small and even built ones tend to grenade under any sort of power. Most low-11 second and faster F-Bods go to TH400s or their electronic cousin, the 4L80E.

The only nice thing about them is that they're plentiful and cheap.
Yea, infact, he has to take his car to the shop right now to fix it.... LOL
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the only problem is if you got on it, it always dropped out of 4th and never upshifted.. even with aftermarket buildups.
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