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Old Jun 20, 2017, 06:21 AM
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Apples to oranges, and a highly subjective conclusion.
Old Jun 20, 2017, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by moparfan

Some stock runs on the same dyno shop as the red CTR with 295whp.
Blue: Stock 2006 Civic SI
Red: Stock 2009 Lancer Ralliart (only one quick run before flashing it)




Is more than clear that the car is way underrated.


**I still have the DRF files around. I can plot them on WinPep.
Old Jun 20, 2017, 08:20 AM
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More variants of the Type R coming http://www.motortrend.com/news/repor...-civic-type-r/
Old Jun 20, 2017, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Yes, I do. I think the only reason the CTR is getting a pass is because it's FWD.
....and is not a threat to the Evo. A lot of Evo owners can't handle the idea if anything betting better.
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Old Jun 20, 2017, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by kaj
....and is not a threat to the Evo. A lot of Evo owners can't handle the idea if anything betting better.
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Exactly my thoughts, actually. It's not unique to Evo owners. God forbid that in the now more than 10 years since the 4G63 stopped being produced in America, car manufacturers would make cars that aren't simply Evo clones but are still very capable machines.
Old Jun 20, 2017, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Exactly my thoughts, actually. It's not unique to Evo owners. God forbid that in the now more than 10 years since the 4G63 stopped being produced in America, car manufacturers would make cars that aren't simply Evo clones but are still very capable machines.
Exactly. I love my Evo, but their is a reason I went away from daily driving it. They're very unrefined in the comfort/NVH department, even in stock or mostly stock form.
Old Jun 21, 2017, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
Exactly. I love my Evo, but their is a reason I went away from daily driving it. They're very unrefined in the comfort/NVH department, even in stock or mostly stock form.
cruise control.. mpg.. I've done pretty well in the NVH department IMO but obviously it's the loudest car I have still
Old Jun 22, 2017, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
If the Type R is really 200 lbs heavier than the SI, I really want to know why...
My guess
- Wheels & Tires
- Exhaust
- Transmission
- Engine
- Wing
- Brakes

Brakes and wheels/tires are likely a large factor
Old Jun 22, 2017, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by GTijoejoe
My guess
- Wheels & Tires
- Exhaust
- Transmission
- Engine
- Wing
- Brakes

Brakes and wheels/tires are likely a large factor
Dont forget the body.

Hatch with tweaks to make it stiffer vs Coupe/Sedan
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Remember, all initial CTR's come stock with navigation, 12 speaker audio, etc. http://www.hondanews.com/channels/ho...ype-r-interior

Supposedly 2018 will bring the option to order a base model without all the options.
Old Jun 22, 2017, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by GTijoejoe
My guess
- Wheels & Tires
- Exhaust
- Transmission
- Engine
- Wing
- Brakes

Brakes and wheels/tires are likely a large factor
That's great and all. The Focus RS is only 200lbs heavier than the Focus ST with all that additional stuff PLUS awd.
Old Jun 23, 2017, 08:51 AM
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It's all about compromises, isn't it?

There are Focus RSs all over Nashville right now, each dealer has like 2. They still won't budge on their $42k sticker prices. The appeal of the RS to me is that it is the best looking exterior of all the cars I compare it to: RS, Golf R, Type R, my X, etc. But I think as time has gone on, the head gasket + engine failures and lack of reliable engine modification potential compared to the X and the R + price makes it a nonstarter for me.

I compared it yesterday side by side to the Golf R, and I think the R is the car I would love to be in now at my age. It's just such a great DD, and I could care less if it's a track monster like the RS, Type R, or X because I don't remotely use that side of it. I appreciate a tingly handling car a whole lot, and the Golf R has none of that. I leaned really hard on the one I drove yesterday, and it pushed like a dump truck. But as a quality driver, it fits me the best. My X is now paid off, and I could get a new R with a baby loan of like $7k, pay it off in a few months. I ran this by the wife, and she threw up every roadblock possible, saying I would regret it, this is my 5th Evo, yada yada yada, so I won't be getting one now for awhile.

On topic, I like the CTR's lightness, but dude. The crazy loud styling, the red seats, the dash... I'm 20 years too old for that thing. I still would love to drive one.

Nemsin's utter hatred of the RS is still funny.
Old Jun 23, 2017, 10:13 AM
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If it came to buying a new turbo sporty sedan/hatch car for a daily, the only decision would be, do I want the manual, or the DCT in my white Golf R...lol. For daily use, you can not beat the interior quality and NVH levels of the Golf R at the price point. If it needs better suspension, the aftermarket is there for a reason. It would likely get a set of ohlins.
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I dislike the Focus RS because deep down, I want to love it. I could forgive all of its shortcomings except for the RDU, that thing is crap.
Old Jun 23, 2017, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
I dislike the Focus RS because deep down, I want to love it. I could forgive all of its shortcomings except for the RDU, that thing is crap.
Its issue is the lack of a center diff.


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