CTR, Golf R, STI, EVO - Can I pick your Brain?
From what I have learned about performance cars.
1. Under no circumstances will I ever want a front wheel drive performance car. Terrible memories of the past owning Sentra, SRT-4 etc.. search for traction and wheel hop problems etc... There were things that can be done to gain more traction and reduce wheel hop but the negatives side effects of those mods just brought about new unwanted side effects . My first preference is AWD and if that is not possible then rear wheel drive.
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1. Under no circumstances will I ever want a front wheel drive performance car. Terrible memories of the past owning Sentra, SRT-4 etc.. search for traction and wheel hop problems etc... There were things that can be done to gain more traction and reduce wheel hop but the negatives side effects of those mods just brought about new unwanted side effects . My first preference is AWD and if that is not possible then rear wheel drive.
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Plus, FWD cars aren't really meant to have silly horsepower. I.E. in my drag racing days, we had Civics and Integras with anywhere from 300-650whp. We did it because of the challenge. Definitely not because it was the fastest or easiest way to do things 
We recognized we were fighting an uphill battle but it was fun.
Expecting a FWD to do well with a bunch of power is unrealistic. That being said, I think Honda has done something remarkable in regards to making this car drive so well and be FAST. I mean, like, all-around fast. Quarter mile is irrelevant here.
If someone is looking to run 10s, impress their friends with dyno numbers, or roll race on the freeway, this car is not for them. For someone looking to mod the crap out of a car and get the most WHP out of it.. probably also not. They should look elsewhere.
For what this car is meant to be, I think Honda hit a home run. Not easy for me to say, as I miss the old N/A days of revving to 9k. The looks are subjective, but growing on me, especially after seeing a few in person.
We recognized we were fighting an uphill battle but it was fun. Expecting a FWD to do well with a bunch of power is unrealistic. That being said, I think Honda has done something remarkable in regards to making this car drive so well and be FAST. I mean, like, all-around fast. Quarter mile is irrelevant here.
If someone is looking to run 10s, impress their friends with dyno numbers, or roll race on the freeway, this car is not for them. For someone looking to mod the crap out of a car and get the most WHP out of it.. probably also not. They should look elsewhere.
For what this car is meant to be, I think Honda hit a home run. Not easy for me to say, as I miss the old N/A days of revving to 9k. The looks are subjective, but growing on me, especially after seeing a few in person.
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Plus, FWD cars aren't really meant to have silly horsepower. I.E. in my drag racing days, we had Civics and Integras with anywhere from 300-650whp. We did it because of the challenge. Definitely not because it was the fastest or easiest way to do things We recognized we were fighting an uphill battle but it was fun.
Expecting a FWD to do well with a bunch of power is unrealistic. That being said, I think Honda has done something remarkable in regards to making this car drive so well and be FAST. I mean, like, all-around fast. Quarter mile is irrelevant here.
If someone is looking to run 10s, impress their friends with dyno numbers, or roll race on the freeway, this car is not for them. For someone looking to mod the crap out of a car and get the most WHP out of it.. probably also not. They should look elsewhere.
For what this car is meant to be, I think Honda hit a home run. Not easy for me to say, as I miss the old N/A days of revving to 9k. The looks are subjective, but growing on me, especially after seeing a few in person.
We recognized we were fighting an uphill battle but it was fun.Expecting a FWD to do well with a bunch of power is unrealistic. That being said, I think Honda has done something remarkable in regards to making this car drive so well and be FAST. I mean, like, all-around fast. Quarter mile is irrelevant here.
If someone is looking to run 10s, impress their friends with dyno numbers, or roll race on the freeway, this car is not for them. For someone looking to mod the crap out of a car and get the most WHP out of it.. probably also not. They should look elsewhere.
For what this car is meant to be, I think Honda hit a home run. Not easy for me to say, as I miss the old N/A days of revving to 9k. The looks are subjective, but growing on me, especially after seeing a few in person.
Also, kinda funny and related: I drove the Evo the other night to test some stuff. A Camaro was messing with me while getting on the freeway. Once the on ramp straightened out, he gunned it (of course he wouldn't try that while turning LOL). Anyway, I gave chase, turned on my signal and then passed him. I bet he wasn't too happy about that. Not bad for a road race car.
Going to need more than 50whp to gain 10mph in traps.
There’s an FBO car in PR trapping mid-high 1-teens, but already at fuel system limits with the smallish stock turbo and pump fuel. Sad.
Not gonna happen. Golf R is already 40k. The more exotic RS3/TTRS 5cyl would bump the price wayyyy higher.
Why sad? For a car not meant for drag racing, that sounds respectable to me.
Because there’s not a current path to high horsepower. Coming out of an Evo X and Golf R, all you had to do was snap your fingers (and swipe your debit card). The K20C1 is going to be lots more tricky and expensive.
Honestly, I'm kinda glad I'm no longer on that path. It opens up a lot more possibilities. Plus, I spend less money and time working on the car.
Totally agree. I have no intention to mod it yet. There aren’t any Bryans or Jons tuning the US CTR at this time. Though I did find a great guy in the UK, that’s not helping me too much across the pond.