Yaris GR vs Type R
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...onfirmed-2022/
Like said chances are better KIA or Hyundai will develop/produce something for US consumption.
Last edited by whtrice; Aug 9, 2020 at 03:52 PM.
I was surprised US got the CTR. It seems auto manufacturers know the US doesn't play well with their toys. Even FORD doesn't sell compact sport vehicles in their own country. Fiesta ST, Focus ST....gone
Yaris gr would have been interesting but still waiting for a reasonably priced performance hybrid.
CO2 output emission standards are going to drive manufacturer options for years to come.
Yaris gr would have been interesting but still waiting for a reasonably priced performance hybrid.
CO2 output emission standards are going to drive manufacturer options for years to come.
Then the cars break and get a bad rep. Tons of warranty work... blah blah. No surprise all the manufacturers are declining to send cars here.

Probably because Americans can't help but take any and all performance cars, try to make eleventy billion horsepower, then drag race it. For some reason, we just can't leave **** alone and drive the cars how they were intended. Rally car? DRAG RACE IT. GT350? DRAG RACE IT. GTR? FD? CTR? DRAG RACE IT! Yeeee haaaw.
Then the cars break and get a bad rep. Tons of warranty work... blah blah. No surprise all the manufacturers are declining to send cars here.
Then the cars break and get a bad rep. Tons of warranty work... blah blah. No surprise all the manufacturers are declining to send cars here.

Probably because Americans can't help but take any and all performance cars, try to make eleventy billion horsepower, then drag race it. For some reason, we just can't leave **** alone and drive the cars how they were intended. Rally car? DRAG RACE IT. GT350? DRAG RACE IT. GTR? FD? CTR? DRAG RACE IT! Yeeee haaaw.
Then the cars break and get a bad rep. Tons of warranty work... blah blah. No surprise all the manufacturers are declining to send cars here.
Then the cars break and get a bad rep. Tons of warranty work... blah blah. No surprise all the manufacturers are declining to send cars here.


To be fair you have to look at the environment most people are driving in. The US is mostly long straight stretches of road. The only real opportunity for fun that presents its self most of the time is straight line acceleration. I think drag racing is also a lot more approachable for the regular person than other forms of motorsports.
I guess some countries do rally, some do GT...F1...we do drag racing. Boo. I think the main appeal is that it takes no effort to floor the gas pedal and go straight. Everyone can do it.
I literally only know about four people that care about anything else. I know we're all a rare breed
It's a shame. I wish manufactures were able to cater to us a bit more.
I'm totally fine with a slower, ICE over a boring electric. I grew up with cars that made amazing sounds. It's too late for me. I'll leave it for the newer generation.
Plus, how impressive is it to just add different motors and batteries to go faster? It's not.
Plus, how impressive is it to just add different motors and batteries to go faster? It's not.

I am totally with you though on the sounds of racing and smell of race fuels.
In 1978 I bought a Trans Am. Under the front was a 1 1/4 inch sway bar. GM said they made it that thickness because it was the thickest metal they could bend. That car was neutral steer - how dare they. After that all I wanted was handling cars. The TA set a high bar. I believe this desire saved my life on at least two occasions. As long as a car has decent power to pass I couldn't care less about having more power.
BTW, I spent the day working on a Subaru. This gave me time to reflect on what it takes to be a Subaru. It was designed by space aliens and reverse engineered by Russians.
BTW, I spent the day working on a Subaru. This gave me time to reflect on what it takes to be a Subaru. It was designed by space aliens and reverse engineered by Russians.
There are plenty of nuances to EV to keep it just as interesting as ICE. I mean just look at the audiophile scene and that's small potatoes compared to moving a vehicle. There will be tons of mods for all the Tim Taylors of the world to grunt about.
Oh. Not having to really maintain anything is another point in the "DD" column.
Not sure it's different anywhere else, though.
I guess some countries do rally, some do GT...F1...we do drag racing. Boo. I think the main appeal is that it takes no effort to floor the gas pedal and go straight. Everyone can do it.
I literally only know about four people that care about anything else. I know we're all a rare breed

It's a shame. I wish manufactures were able to cater to us a bit more.










