no road kills l8ly as my clutch is dead and the shop is replacing it on SAT. I want to kill the AMG first and post a thread on the AMG forums so I can get flamed . My wife will drive the AMG when we race because she hates my EVO.

 

Holy chit MAN!! That car is soooo bad ****!!!! AMGs are pimp and performance all in one, sick, sick, sick!!! You guys should run just for the hell of it

 

The E55 doesn't need anymore power IMO. The upgrade from the 2003 was enough (or was it 2002) at a bump up of 120 hp.

It just doesn't handle the way an Evo does. It's scary because it's not as comunicative and quiet (relatively speaking).

3071 (with a new clutch) vs the E55 quarter mile. E55 wins 3 out of 5 times my guess because of ease of launch and shifting.

AZ3AR, make sure you're on your game when you race your wife.


(On a closed track with professionally trained drivers. Do not try this at home. Evom does not encourage speed contests on public roads )

 

lol, my game is always on with the wife so I will win . I dont know E55 2005 runs QM in 12.2 but it's much easier to shift. My EVO made on shiv dyno 323 whp on 97 gas. EVO guys are running 12.1~12.2 with stage one plus on C16 with 310whp (same dyno) so will see what happens.

 

Yeah, I've watched your posts and have spoken with the Vishnu guys about your car. You've brought a lot of enthusiasm to the community. It's really nice to see.

When you get your clutch, speak to Paul about launching. It will be a whole new world but (of course) not as easy as launching the E55.

When you get it right w/ the evo launch, it will be a quiet almost uneventful process. If you don't slip enough or get the rpms up enough, well, look out, she'll fly right by you and you'll chase her to 150.

Smog and some of the others must be amazing drivers. a 12.2 takes a lot of skill in the evo, even with the power they make. A launch and 3 shifts take up precious time and I'll bet their averaged runs on any given day are mid 12's.

Power to weight on e55 = 8.1
0n 3071 = 7.2 (323 x 1.4 to crank = 452 crank hp. I think that's what Shiv said the driveline loss was with his Dyno - please no dyno flaming - this is just conjecture!)
You should have an advantage IF you run 97 or above. Just don't try to take her with 91 Arco on a hot day. And don't let her put 100 octane in her tank! Enjoy the cars.

 

Thanks man. very good points you have up their.

 

az3ar, are you running a cat? if you aren't, how come youre only making 8 hp more on 97 than the stage 1+ tuned cars make on 100 octane?

That worries me because it seems like you'll have all the lag of a larger turbo, and barely any benefit from it.

BTW, whats the AMG forum website?

 

Ahhh the E55 AMG, 469HP is a lie, it really makes 493HP, but that is just my opinion and observation. They call the E55 AMG the tiger in a business suit for a good reason, and any car would have trouble taking it, but your upgraded EVO should have no trouble beating one from a roll or stop, I mean 12.2 seems alittle fast to me, the magazines consistently test them at 12.4 to 12.6, and I saw one (only one) at the track run a 12.5 and 12.6 bone stock, talk about consistent, while fast, not fast enough bexause your EVO can run 11s. Still I must admit I hate you Az3ar because you have my two dream cars, just kiddin', still you are one lucky man.

 

On the contrary, smog and the others are actually quite consistent in their low 12s, in fact it's quite shocking when they do run mid to high 12s, you should check them out sometime, they frequent California Speedway and Carlsbad (RIP) on a regular basis. They all admit that there driving could improve, and I believe most are still on their stock clutch. I don't think launching an EVO is all that difficult once you get the hang of it, I think it's more of an mental issue than an technique issue.

 

After having my turbo kit for 3K I started to get used to it more and more everyday. My turbo does not lag as I get full boost by 3800 RPM 3900 max and on 4th gear full boost by 3600~3700. I am not sure exactly about stage one + (lets all remember stock turbo is a great turbo) but I think it makes it's peak power @ 5500 RPM or so ( I might be wrong ) and then power band starts dropping a bit and a bit to 7600 rpm (redline) when we shift. Here is what I am trying to say if you make your peak @ 5500 RPM or so (not sure) then you switch gears at the track at 7600 RPM you will fall in the 6000 RPM range where your EVO is not making all its power. My turbo keeps going and going and going and my peak is around 6600 RPM I believe so when I switch gears on 7500~7600 RPM I will fall right in the power. Everything I am saying up there might be wrong but that's what I think so that might give me the edge in QM. On top all that stage 1+ is great and in my eyes it’s the best stage out there but I am an idiot and I wanted to try a different thing (ATP) which is great but different. ALex ALex if you read my old posts I still has my stock cams and cam gears and so on. Where stage one is putting the stock turbo to it's limits. Their is a guy who had Stage 1+ and my turbo but he did not make much power ( I have no answer for that ) . EVOS are new in this country and everyone is still trying to know about them.

Thanks

 

white rules

 

A stock evo clutch is a lot different than twin plate and 300+ whp. Very nice, but different. It takes re-training, and a little more thinking. You're right, it is very mental and takes concentration. The e55 is a brainless launch.

I think all I was trying to say about the times is the e55 runs 12.4 - 12.6 consistantly in the mags w/ a trap of 115-116mph and could easily run down the evo if any mistakes were made.

With the evo 3071, a bogged launch a slow shift, early shift, hit the rev limiter, and your 12.0 is now 12.7. Remember the ATP kits make less HP (on the Vishnu dyno, 3rd gear pull) up to about 4600 rpm compared w/ stock. Not to be confused w/ full spool.)

It should be a close race, with AZ3AR coming out on top if his wife doesn't flash him to break his concentration