I just have the one in tank wallbro, just cant flow enough corn when the car hits above 24 psi, just starts leaning out.... im sure a double pumper would work, i was just going to run a sump with twin externals and some larger line..... I think i might need to look into a diff fuel rail too just to be safe...

later
DJ

 

I am not being a jerk saying this so don't take it the wrong way. From the looks of your build you probably aren't interested in what I think but.............the double pumper is probably all you need. Personally, sumping the tank, running external pumps/lines is just a PITA and messes up a nice car. That's my opinion.

Based on the power I've seen from a lot of other builds I would really guess that twin intake pumps, stock lines, stock regulator and just a fuel rail upgrade will work with your 1600's.

Just opinion and suggestions.

 

something tells me to heed the advice of the guy churning out 93 octane 500whp+ cars on the regular............

 

whatever you do just remember don't go out for your test/tune with a full tank and no tools this time

 

Dave, Im in no way trying to say that ur pump set up wont work or is insuffecent, givin it is a lil pricey..... but I take alot of pride in doing things on my own.....

anyone can go out and buy all these premade hop up kits and throw them on a car... but to hand make and set up stuff like this are the things that really set my car apart for the rest.........

the only premade "kit" type things on my car are my mani/turbo/dp setup (slowmotion) and ur f/m and uppper innercooler pipe..... otherwise everything in my car has been planed, made, and fabbed specificaly for my car......

PITA .... yes.... final product .......... priceless....

later
DJ

 

HA ya i learned from that incedent.. and btw i have had zero probs on this build up other then the serp belt.....

later
DJ

 

I just wanted to take a chance to say just how impressed I am with DJ's car. He really did a nice job putting things together, and I would venture to say that it is one of the nicest and will be one of the fastest Evos running around the streets of Ohio that was not put together by a shop.

Like most of my customers, DJ has become a good friend over the past year or so. DJ helps me out at my garage now and then, and brings a lot of practical mechanics skills (very good ASE Mechanic, as well as in school for Mechanical Engineering) when I need a helping hand. I have performed his tuning through the various set-ups he has had on his car, and when he told me that he was planing on pulling his head over the winter and replacing the headgasket, t-belt, and doing some work to the head, I suggested to him at that point it would make the most sense to just build his entire engine. I think that he was a bit hesitant at first, understanding that it would take more than double the money than he origionally thought.

I made some suggestions on parts, some of which he followed, some which were not due to cost, but in the end I think he as put together a very solid car, on his own. He is a very talented fabricator and welder as well. Its always awesome and impressive for me, and I assume other shops, to see a well put together car that at the end of the day gets the job done, wouldent you agree Dave?

 

so everyone just ignored my post about the meet? Gezzz, these damn Cleveland evos

 

when, where?

 

YUP

maybe hit some food this weekend?

 

Anyone going over to Meade Engineerings open house on Saturday ? A subi buddy of mine and me will go over. I would hope I am not the only evo owner there.

Not sure what time yet I will post details, once I have them. Meade is just west of Dublin (NW Columbus)

 

That's great and all and it warmed my heart. But why on earth would you refuse to consider something that works? Isn't that the point of all your effort? To build a car that works well going fast?

Dunno, sometimes I just get cornfused

 

Sometimes people just like to take the hard road. I know first hand....I did it for 4 years with the STI. But it did get to a point where it was no longer enjoyable.

Now I have a 10.0 second evo that I wash and change the oil and spark plugs in and its great!!

 

I understand putting a car together yourself, of course, we build parts here and that's what started the business, building parts for other people, so I understand it probably more than anyone else here.

Good luck, I wasn't trying to push my product on anyone. I am trying to save another EVO from turning into a cut up POS. Not saying your car is POS, but sumping the tank for external pumps is a 100% complete waste of effort, time and a good gas tank in an EVO, not to mention the holes that will be drilled in a good car to mount pumps. Just my opinion and that's all, useless to most people.

I wish I had 50 EVO's personally, all nice and stock parked in a garage somewhere just to save some of them.

 

I don't think you guys completely understand the setup that DJ is running for his fuel system, as it is a somewhat universal unit that I designed. I does not involve sumping the stock tank. Dave, you can check it out at the Shootout, it is really quite nifty and very clean.

Twin internal pumps in parallel offer about 10gph less flow than twin external pumps in parallel at 30psi boost with a base fuel pressure of 40psi and about 20gph less at 40psi. The extra volume will be good for running high boost on E85. I have not calculated the necessary flow for E85 at those power levels, but and extra 10-20 gallons per hour will be an added saftey factor.

As always, Dave, your parts and enthusiasm towards perfection is incedible, and it is nice to see that you want whats best for everyone in the community, and that your not just about selling your parts. Trust me, when I say that I tell people to purchase your parts everyday, even when im not making any money from it. I too feel that people should only put the best on their cars.