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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 11:53 AM
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oho! sounds like there is finally some interest developing in some road course fun time? I can't stress strongly enough how much fun it is, all u bums driving evos for street racing and roll racing are missing out on 90% of the fun that the evo was designed for! Lateral G loads FTW

Quit pansying around on the street and come to the track and learn how to actually drive.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 03:49 PM
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Agreed ^^
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 04:19 PM
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I can't wait. I would like to see if we can get some experienced drivers to help us noobs out.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 04:41 PM
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Indeed old country roads seem to do pretty good to train lol
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ktk
oho! sounds like there is finally some interest developing in some road course fun time? I can't stress strongly enough how much fun it is, all u bums driving evos for street racing and roll racing are missing out on 90% of the fun that the evo was designed for! Lateral G loads FTW

Quit pansying around on the street and come to the track and learn how to actually drive.
Not all street racing is done on the interstate .
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Routybouty
Not all street racing is done on the interstate .
Yeah road racing through school zones when the children get out is exhilarating! The slower they are, the bigger the bonus if you hit em!
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 07:49 PM
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Yep shouldn't be into road anyways lol
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 07:49 PM
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Retards
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 08:12 PM
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Retards
You're just jealous, as my e-c o c k is over 9000 times larger than yours.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 08:51 PM
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I do all my racing on the internet AKA Youtube
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 10:51 PM
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Im up for a track day. lets do it
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 06:06 AM
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On a serious note:

I would really like to get more experienced drivers input, etc.

Especially for my setup, because I think I will be overpowering my brakes. I will most likely use my pumpgas tune, but thats still pretty high for an inexperienced driver as myself.
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by NickieBlaine
On a serious note:

I would really like to get more experienced drivers input, etc.

Especially for my setup, because I think I will be overpowering my brakes. I will most likely use my pumpgas tune, but thats still pretty high for an inexperienced driver as myself.

You will find that having too much power is a burden at track days. Its far more dangerous to be flying at high speed without experience, you burn up tires, brakes and fuel much faster, and you don't really benefit from it much since its not a race. Track days are not about all out speed, it is a non competitive environment, you are only competing against yoruself to make yoruself a better driver. You will find guys out with 1.6L miatas passing men in far more capable cars because at the track, the driver makes the car fast not the other way around. Starting with a lower powerwill allow you to learn the handling/braking limits of the vehicle without scaring/injuring/blowing up/killing yourself.

At about 420whp on pump my car is already one of the fastest street driven cars at any track day. It has more than enough power to set stock brakes on fire after a few laps at full tilt without proper brake management. Those of you with heavy power come to your track day with a detuned power map and low boost, even 300ish whp is still stupid amounts of power for a novice far more than you will need on your first day.

Also keep in mind that track session are 20-30 mins long and there are up to 6-8 session. This is not like a 10 sec freeway pull, you are beating the **** out of your engine for 20+ minutes nonstop several times a day. Don't overstress it or things will break.

Speed wise a bone stock evo with a decent driver will be one of the fastest cars in a novice track day.

When it comes to track driving, it is usually beneficial to start with a stock or close to stock car and as your skill as a driver is held back by the limits of the car you make mods to raise its limits in this order:

1) brake pads & tires
2) suspension
3) power
4) aero/weight reduction

Those of you planning to come to a track day at Putnam, I highly recommend 10/10ths as a starting point. They are a bit more expensive, but you get far more track time for your $.

Their first event this season at Putnam is April 2/3rd weekend:
http://www.1010thsmotorsports.com/page/page/5265175.htm

Last time I was out at Putnam at the end of Oct there was a bunch of cool hardware out Lambo Gallardo, Ferrari F430, Audi R8 V10, Porsche Carerra GT, 4 STI's and ONLY 1 evo. I had to represent all by myself. That said the only one in that group who didn't get passed by me was the CGT and although I couldn't pass him, he didn't pass me either


You need to have a proper certified helmet, your car should be in tip top mechanical shape, with at least 70% brake pad life left, good brake fluid (i recommend Motul RBF600 for evos), once you have done a few track days you might even want to bring extra pads with you. More aggressive track pads are a must for high power cars, I melted down a brand new 350$ set of Ferodo DS2500's clubsport pads in just 2 days at Autobahn up in Joliet IL last year... needless to say i've moved on to a sintered iron pad now.
Good tires make a huge difference. Don't even think about showing up with some balding or heavily camber worn tires. If you have it in your budget a good set of high performance street compound tires make a huge difference for track driving: RE11's, Star Spec Z1s (i run these), NT05s, etc etc

Track driving is not cheap, but it will allow you to safely explore the potential of your car safely in a way you have never done before. I started out on windy backroads myself when i was young and even compared to that the track is a different league of speed/fun.

Save up those monies! invest in tires/brakes and a full track weekend and you won't regret it i guarantee
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 08:47 AM
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Right now I have dba 4000 rotors, ebc redstuff pads, ss lines waiting to go on.

On e85, im almost to 600 hp, on pump around 450.

Right now I have BR spec JIC coilovers, not sure on the spring rates. I have stock advans on one set of wheels, and was looking at either the * specs or the hancooks rs-3 for a summer/track tire.
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by NickieBlaine
Right now I have dba 4000 rotors, ebc redstuff pads, ss lines waiting to go on.

On e85, im almost to 600 hp, on pump around 450.

Right now I have BR spec JIC coilovers, not sure on the spring rates. I have stock advans on one set of wheels, and was looking at either the * specs or the hancooks rs-3 for a summer/track tire.
Ah come to track on pump gas 450 is far more than you will be needing on the 1st day. Also there is no E85 pumps around and you will burn hella fuel over a weekend

Sounds like you have far more than enough hardware wise for the first track day. My advice to novices with serious cars is not to get caught up in trying to go fast, instead focus on correct technique. Learn the track, learn the braking points, the turn in points, where to shift, what gear to be in where, where to get on the power (early in evos that is the awd trump card ) learn how to rev match downshift, heel toe, etc and utilize the grip and chassis and power as smoothly as possible while finding the correct line. If you concentrate on this and get good at it, you will automatically become fast without even realizing it. Speed is a byproduct of smoothness, proper lines, and maximum utilization of the available grip.
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