Hey guys, im looking at buying an MR but have been a little troubled by my research. I am finding alot of talk about tc-sst failures, rumors of non-oem fluids causing issues, no parts support, no after-market support, misti not wanting to to cover tran failure under warranty ect...

Maybe all of this is in the minority of the experiences out there and is overblown? But I am not comfortable buying a car with a $10k ticking time bomb.

Anyway, should I be concerned? I am not planning on going mod crazy. Maybe a cobb, and intake/exhaust down the road some day.

With that said. If I buy a used mr with 5-10k miles on it, is there any reason that i should worry about a tc-sst failure if I am bone stock? I have up to the five year warranty correct? I am not going to track/drag the car.

Also, last question. Can I service it myself and still be within warranty?

Thanks

 

Really the TC-SST failures, from what I've read, have been relatively few. With a flash, intake, and exhaust you'll still be within the published (conservative) limits for the transmission. No, you cannot buy parts for it from Mitsu, though others are starting to step up to the plate. There are many of us who are well over what flash/intake/exhaust would get you and are running just fine.

You can change the fluids yourself (though I'd stick with the stock fluid). I'd not worry about it (in fact, if I were going to buy another X, I'd get another TC-SST in a heartbeat- the transmission is AWESOME).

If you get an 08, it only has a 3/36 warranty, though I think the 10/11 models have 5/50.

 

As the owner of an MR.. Id stay away/Run away to a GSR until replacement parts become available. Consider yourself warned. Mitsu will do ANYTHING it can to void the warranty. (First hand experience here) It appears that there is a possible weak link/ bad sensor in the TCU and Mitsu has no interest in replacing a 10K transmission on their dime.

 

IMO the rumors of non oem fluid causing issues, is just that....Rumors! I've been running pro red for over 30k, and we have countless customers (BMW,VW,AUDI,MITSUBISHI, NISSAN) that are using our fluid with NO issues.

Considering how many SST's are out there very few are experiencing problems.

SSP offers plenty of aftermarket support for the SST.... Fluid, coolers, filters, pans, clutches, and flywheels to name a few.

Mitsubishi is obviously ONLY going to cover your warranty if your car is stock. Don't go there with a test pipe,catback, and gauges expecting to get covered....it's not going to happen.

 

More info!!! This is a good question. On my Mr I've realized that some noises although sound weird are just normal. I love it so far through

 

just keep the car 100% stock if you're really concerned about the warrenty and just enjoy the car for what it is. The DCT's are the future and are extremly reliable for being 1st gen, there very few overall failiures considering how many were sold. The only real concern is how long the clutchpaks last? Nobody really knows until people start putting +100K miles on their cars and yes they should last at least this long or longer under normal driving conditions with light tracking here and there

 

Both the 08 and 10 have 5 year / 60k mile powertrain, no matter how much you transfer it. Both also have a 3 year / 30k bumper to bumper warranty.

A few things to note. I caution against buying a used Evo X MR. You don't know what has been done to it. Ask Webman about his experiences buying a X MR with 5k miles no it. He basically had to threaten to sue mitsubishi until they gave in and had his car repaired properly. We think the guy before him messed with the boost pill or wastegate and just never ran right. One all of that was replaced (took about 4 months) it finally ran right. I'd have someone very respectable check it out if you can.

If you're going to keep it stock or just add a catback / drop-in, you will be fine on warranty. Just make sure it still has the factory flash on it, because if mitsu sees it without it, you can kiss your warranty good bye.

Me personally, I love the SST. It is definitely the best transmission I've ran at the track. However, I'm scared to death I'm going to have to replace it some day... and I love the track too much to stop going there. If you're just running the street or occasional track day, it'll be fine. It'll last a very long time. With that being said, I'll be going to a X GSR very soon. I need my track time, and don't have a spare $10k to throw away on a transmission.

As far as fluid, I don't recommend anything besides OEM right now. It is proven and works great. On top of that if catches you with any other fluid, kiss the warranty good bye. Until multiple track cars have many miles of proven track time with x fluid, I might consider it. To me there are too many variables and the cost to replace the transmission is too great to gamble on fluid.

 

I would say it depends on you driving style if your hard on your car and are use to a stick shift car get gsr if you are going to use as a dd and not race it get mr

 

Good stuff...So do you think I could get a dealership to inspect for any modding evidence?

If I could get them to say the warranty is good then I could use that against them later if I have an issue.

 

to my knowledge the bumper to bumper is 3 years 36000 miles as previous poster stated (probably just a type o on the 30,000 mile).

 

http://www.mitsubishicars.com/media/...ty_booklet.pdf

http://www.mitsubishicars.com/MMNA/j...te/warranty.do

Yes, 3 year / 36k miles for bumper to bumper.

5 year / 60k miles for powertrain.

 

If you are planning on sticking to mild upgrades you should be completely fine

 

Editorial:

I am one of the very few who have had a major failure of the SST gearbox yet I would not even consider the GSR gearbox as an option, the SST is that good (unless you drag race alot, it does not launch as well as the 5 speed), As an example, none of the Jim Russell “Evo Experience” SST cars have had a gearbox failure despite thousands of miles of exclusively race track abuse by inexperienced drivers. His cars are stock, OEM fluid, no extra cooling.

From what I understand the issue not up to the individual dealer here in the US; if a mechanical part failure in an Evo is brought into the dealer for warranty work they must refer it back to Mitsubishi USA who will send in their own trained tech to examine the car before reimbursing the dealer for any repairs. His job is to find cause for denying the claim, like any evidence of the car have been modified or tracked. This applies, I’ve been told, to the Evo model only because of the many modified cars out there that were thought to have been misrepresented by the owner when brought in for warranty work. Somebody in Mitsu USA management feels that we, the Evo owners, are cheating the company and wants improve his bottom line at our expense.

In my opinion the warranty should be honored if a causal relation between the modification/abuse and the specific mechanical failure cannot reasonably be assumed (like re-flashing the ECU causing an SST temp sensor failure ) but this is sadly not the case. The law is on our side in this matter and we can get our legitimate warrantee claims honored but it will involve a lengthy legal arbitration that most us, myself included, will not want to pursue nor should we have to.