Personally I feel relatively comfortable with Schroth belts for lapping days. Snug the lap belt down over your pelvis, then tighten the shoulder belts. However if I feel the harness getting a bit loose during a session I pit and tighten things up. Obviously not an option if you are trying to do any kind of timed event.....

 

Yeah, I used to do hot lap events with a Schroth harness, but I should have mounted it hgher up (like the rear shoulder belt mounts or maybe the child seat anchor) to be safer.

 

The child seat teather is supposed to be a no-no for seat belt mounting, but I cant remember if I read that in literature from Mitsubishi or Schroth. I agree that the less of a down angle on the belts is a good thing. In these matters I refer to the SCCA GCR which, if memory serves, allows no more than a 45 degree angle.

 

Yeah, the child seat teather probably isn't designed to hold more than a 100 lb baby. If you're just going by the rules, my seatbelt was a little under 45 degrees, so it would have been allowed (at least in that aspect). But that's still prone to injuries from when I hear.

 

The more I'm learning about this stuff the more it seems that just using the stock belts is probably the safest option. If you do roll the car w/o a roll cage and you are in a harness you are going to be screwdid. Unfortunately, during an autocross the 3 point belts let your assend slide all of the place. What is a racer to do?

In my case I'll probably just install one of these and not worry about it: http://www.1gracing.com/m12.html

That is of course after I finish paying off my student loans. I knew I should have merried a doctor or lawyer. stay at home husband that is the life.

 

I agree 100%. Safety equipment must work together as a complete system. Unless you're prepared to install a cage, fixed-back seats, 5-point 3" wide quick-release harnesses, and disable your airbags...just stick with stock safety equipment. Half-assing it will only get you into deeper trouble.


I haven't tried those CG-Lock things, but they look promising. I just do the old "recline the seat-back, tighten the shoulder belt, raise the seat-back" trick. It works fine.


I dunno. I'm a doctor and I'm still struggling

Emre

 

Hello, Doc.

Maybe I should let you in on a little secret. DD it.

CMKX.pk

 

That is a secret! I have no idea what you mean by "DD it."

 

Sorry for going off topic w/ the Noble M12 thing. I can't stop drooling over them.

Anyway, any thoughts about using a torso belt for autocross? It seems like a good idea but it sorta feels like shopping at Wal-Mart: not something to brag about.

 

Tweek, I use a Schroth harness for autocross still. That's relatively safe, because you have to be a really really bad driver to roll a car in autocross (I've yet to see it happen), just install it over your stock belts and leave it off when driving daily.

But like Kayaalp said, you should be able to give the stock belt a yank to engage the lock and that will work fine, especially with evo seats.

btw, I'm gonna kinda be a house husband. I'm a school teacher and my girl is going to be an interior architect/graphic designer. I'd be be real good if I want her to buy me a Spec racer for x-mas!

 

My wife is a teacher (I missed on the whole Dr./Lawyer thing). I have a ton of respect for teachers. The amount of BS they put up with from parents is amazing. You deserve 2 spec racers.

As far as the harnesses go..Is this: http://www.soloperformance.com/Deskt...28&selection=5 a good one?

 

Tweek, that's a very good one. DOT approved (has the ASM device) and has a retractor. I almost bought one, but you have to wire the retractor to the battery and mount it a certain way to make it work right, and I'm not al the technologically advanced, so I bought one without the retractor, which just means I can't change CDs while strapped in... no biggy.

 

There are several of us (tsi90awd and I, to name two) here who use Scroth, moreover, I have been with the BadgerBimmers at Blackhawk Farms and saw at least 3 Bimmers with Scroth's. There are many, many ways to look at this, but if the Ferrari F430 can have 4-pointers, I suppose I can as well.

 

nearly a year later......

I just ordered a Scroth Ralleye harness. I hope it is a good one. Does anybody else have one of these? any comments?

during the previous season I made my own CG-Lock. I don't like the CG-Lock because it locks the belt where the seat belt buckle is. that allows the shoulder belt to move. I used one of the metal things from a baby seat to lock the seat belt at the tensioner. Using it I'm able to lock myself in to the car fairly well. I just got tired of having to adjust the bloody thing.

 

well i know its a little late but I have the 3" sparcos with Nomex Pads, 4 point, with Sparcos harness bar and they are super comfortable...also, the price was right at 200 a pop....just a thought....


mike