400whp + auto-x car?
Whoa, how did you manage -3 degrees of camber up front. When you say also will have a sway bar, do you have one in now, or is it going in, and is it a front or rear swaybar? My car handled well with just a rear sway and alignment up to about 330whp....Do you have a front LSD, if not have fun murdering some cones, my car with the power it has now will hardly ever get out of a corner withouht the inside front letting off a little smoke.
Scorke
Scorke
Originally Posted by scorke
Whoa, how did you manage -3 degrees of camber up front. When you say also will have a sway bar, do you have one in now, or is it going in, and is it a front or rear swaybar? My car handled well with just a rear sway and alignment up to about 330whp....Do you have a front LSD, if not have fun murdering some cones, my car with the power it has now will hardly ever get out of a corner withouht the inside front letting off a little smoke.
Scorke
Scorke
I know -2 is very easy with the stock bolts, haha but -3 is not! I was joking with the lack of LSD causing cone hitting, I just know that a front LSD especially in a greater than stock whp evo is a huge advantage.
Scorke
Scorke
Originally Posted by scorke
I know -2 is very easy with the stock bolts, haha but -3 is not! I was joking with the lack of LSD causing cone hitting, I just know that a front LSD especially in a greater than stock whp evo is a huge advantage.
Scorke
Scorke
What version 30R are you running and what sort of power is it putting out?(include boost, gas, dyno type plz) I am pretty sure even with a lot of tweaking -2 is about all you can get without camber plates.
Scorke
Scorke
I wasn't trying to correct. I was offering my help if you were actually more interested in cars with 400wtq (I have) rather than cars with 400whp (I don't have), because I got to do it for the first time a few weeks ago and did extremely well.
You're trying to say that even though you asked for cars with over 400whp you really meant power through the whole rpm band, but there's a huge difference. For instance, take Eclipsed Evo's 418whp. Well, he most likely has less torque than I do, but has about 50 more whp. He won't get ever get close to that 418whp on the CDC auto-x courses, but he'll be dealing with a slower-spooling 350wtq (guesstimate). Conversely, I pass 300wtq at 3200-3300rpm and hit peak tq at 3800 or so. That makes a huge difference, and I think it's more of what you're asking. I would expectedly have more trouble dealing with the violent onset of torque while coming out of a tight turn, but I found that with V710s, there is no fish-tailing or uncontrollable oversteer, but if I had lesser tires, I think it would be a much different story.
You're trying to say that even though you asked for cars with over 400whp you really meant power through the whole rpm band, but there's a huge difference. For instance, take Eclipsed Evo's 418whp. Well, he most likely has less torque than I do, but has about 50 more whp. He won't get ever get close to that 418whp on the CDC auto-x courses, but he'll be dealing with a slower-spooling 350wtq (guesstimate). Conversely, I pass 300wtq at 3200-3300rpm and hit peak tq at 3800 or so. That makes a huge difference, and I think it's more of what you're asking. I would expectedly have more trouble dealing with the violent onset of torque while coming out of a tight turn, but I found that with V710s, there is no fish-tailing or uncontrollable oversteer, but if I had lesser tires, I think it would be a much different story.
Originally Posted by scorke
What version 30R are you running and what sort of power is it putting out?(include boost, gas, dyno type plz) I am pretty sure even with a lot of tweaking -2 is about all you can get without camber plates.
Scorke
Scorke
Last edited by Eclipsed Evo; Apr 11, 2006 at 06:35 PM.
i'm doing a 16g with a 10.5 hotside, 272's set at -3,-3, and 100% meth injection for the majors on the motor. i do have a big meth tank (2.5 gallons) too so i can run it at a autox meet. i came up with this "idea" of a setup to get the best spool and broadest power band combination i can for autox
Originally Posted by EvilBlueEvo8
i'm doing a 16g with a 10.5 hotside, 272's set at -3,-3, and 100% meth injection for the majors on the motor. i do have a big meth tank (2.5 gallons) too so i can run it at a autox meet. i came up with this "idea" of a setup to get the best spool and broadest power band combination i can for autox
EVOlutionary
I got about 360whp/trq on Buschurs MD, so that probably puts me over 400. I went out the other weekend and the thing was a blast. I was in a drivers school and kept up with the c6z06. All my instructor could say was "man, this things awesome".
That was with the 20g9 at 28psi on meth, and still on all season tires.
That was with the 20g9 at 28psi on meth, and still on all season tires.
Originally Posted by adamhw
I got about 360whp/trq on Buschurs MD, so that probably puts me over 400. I went out the other weekend and the thing was a blast. I was in a drivers school and kept up with the c6z06. All my instructor could say was "man, this things awesome".
That was with the 20g9 at 28psi on meth, and still on all season tires.
That was with the 20g9 at 28psi on meth, and still on all season tires.
The guy in the Zoh couldn't drive, thats all there is to it, but good work!
Also, eclipsed what was your wtq? Also eclipsed, how has the car/you performed in the past at these autocrosses?
Scorke
Originally Posted by EVOlutionary
So far from what I have been reading on the message boards, it sounds as though alcohol injection is not legal for SCCA Solo 2 in AS, BSP, SM, or ST classes.
EVOlutionary
EVOlutionary
Originally Posted by EvilBlueEvo8
i'm doing a 16g with a 10.5 hotside, 272's set at -3,-3, and 100% meth injection for the majors on the motor. i do have a big meth tank (2.5 gallons) too so i can run it at a autox meet. i came up with this "idea" of a setup to get the best spool and broadest power band combination i can for autox
As for the meth, haha, man you don't need 2.5 gallons to do a 60s autox. I do full 25-min sessions on the road course and use half a gallon of alky. I only have a 1-gallon tank, but don't use it all up even with 25mins of full boosting in 4th and 5th (when not braking, that is, hah).
Originally Posted by scorke
The guy in the Zoh couldn't drive, thats all there is to it, but good work!
Also, eclipsed what was your wtq? Also eclipsed, how has the car/you performed in the past at these autocrosses?
Scorke
Also, eclipsed what was your wtq? Also eclipsed, how has the car/you performed in the past at these autocrosses?
Scorke
One other note I was on street tires. Atleast half the guys that placed ahead of me had race tires.




