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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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Mine goes up 135c or so after a 3 or so hot laps as well. I haven't been to the track in awhile but when I was tracking regulary it would do that every time.

It would pretty much stay there though, not get any higher than 138c or so.

This is with 340ish whp on a mustang dyno , with a track tune, with a green. I would rev to 7900 or so if I needed the gearing.

At the time I had stock radiator as well. My water temps where always fine.

At the track I used a cocktail of 15w-50 and 10w-30 redline motor oil.
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 03:13 PM
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Mine goes up 135c or so after a 3 or so hot laps as well. I haven't been to the track in awhile but when I was tracking regulary it would do that every time.

It would pretty much stay there though, not get any higher than 138c or so.

This is with 340ish whp on a mustang dyno , with a track tune, with a green. I would rev to 7900 or so if I needed the gearing.

At the time I had stock radiator as well. My water temps where always fine.

At the track I used a cocktail of 15w-50 and 10w-30 redline motor oil.
good to know.... im starting to think it is normal... robi says the same thing as you.. he sees 140c all the time.

how has your motor held up?



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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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good to know.... im starting to think it is normal... robi says the same thing as you.. he sees 140c all the time.

how has your motor held up?



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It's been fine. 175 all the way across. 49,000 hard miles on it. Seen probably 30 + events, 15-20 of those in summer with extreme heat. It's seen 31 psi in R&D and I've also run 27.5psi through it on 91 octane on the street.

I do have some leak down now but I strongly believe it's head related, a valve seal or something as I do rev the **** out of it and it still has the stock valvetrain. Time to upgrade.

The Evo 9 we ran at the last buttonwillow TA that got 2nd place in street makes 365whp on the same mustang dyno, with a green, revved to 7900 or so if needed. Stock oil cooler, upgraded radiator. Full weight. It also hits 135c+ oil temps.
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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From an artical I saw some time ago: Oil's " effectiveness" is constant until about 220f, and for every 10* increase in temp an oils ability to maintain its lubricating effectiveness is cut in half... so by 240*f an oils effectiveness is cut to 25% of it effectiveless at 220*f.... I think thats whats been asked and it loosly fits with what has been expressed in the last 5 pages..Just sharing what I base my judgements on oil temp on.. I am sure there are exceptions to the rule and someone oil is better then someone elses...but for all the rest..this is what I use to be sure I don't have a problem.
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 07:42 PM
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I've seen over 125C in 90F weather
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 10:12 AM
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time for some upgrades before the summer track days
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by meckert
From an artical I saw some time ago: Oil's " effectiveness" is constant until about 220f, and for every 10* increase in temp an oils ability to maintain its lubricating effectiveness is cut in half... so by 240*f an oils effectiveness is cut to 25% of it effectiveless at 220*f.... I think thats whats been asked and it loosly fits with what has been expressed in the last 5 pages..Just sharing what I base my judgements on oil temp on.. I am sure there are exceptions to the rule and someone oil is better then someone elses...but for all the rest..this is what I use to be sure I don't have a problem.

With a Petroleum oil, that is correct....225 is upper lubricating limits.. AMSOIL will continue lubricating well beyond that..

I am still leaning toward a faulty guage, sending unit or something other than 290 being the oil temp especially when it is a sudden jump in temp... oil just don't jump 80 degrees right away when you hit the throttle.

I have hit over 270 on my bike, but we are talking an air-cooled V-Twin riding at 5 MPH for 11 Miles with the Ambient temp close to 100 ... No air circulation and still only 270..

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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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it might be the temp guage or sender.... or it might be the location of where the sender is. Im gonna switch it & see what happens.

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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 03:41 AM
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Nils, have you had your used oil analyzed? If it checks out okay, then the temps are probably no big deal. If its full of bearing material, well...
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 07:44 AM
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Nils, have you had your used oil analyzed? If it checks out okay, then the temps are probably no big deal. If its full of bearing material, well...

thas a good idea.... oil doc, you do testing, right?
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 09:22 AM
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thx.... just signed up for a free kit... we'll see what happens.

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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 10:10 AM
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Ya man send it to blackstone. Also Nils I would run alot less weight as well. 20/50 is like diesel oil haha. I run 5/30 still, and usually switch to 0/30 in the summer.
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 11:12 AM
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you & doc say to run thinner oil but all my racing buddies along with most EVO race engine builders (like Buschur, DTM) say to go with 20/50....

im gonna try the amsoil 20/50 TRO next... then after that I'll try the Amsoil thinner weight..

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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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Been using Blackstone for awhile. Love the data.
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