Hey are any of you guys running (or have run) the Hawk Ceramic pads at the track? If so, how do they perform compared to other track pads i.e. the HP+ ? Any recommendations on a good road coarse pad (and will it destroy the rotor)? Thanks

 

if i'm right, a few evo guys have come out to events running the hawk pads, and i think everyone fades them like it's their job. Most have moved away from them, but i can't speak directly, as i've never used hawk.

I'd recommend a real track pad, probably something more than an hp+ if you're really gonna do an event. that and some better brake fluid. (motul.)

 

DTC-70 Extremely high torque with aggressive controllable initial bite. Superior release and torque control characteristics. Brake pads designed for cars with high deceleration rates with or without down force.

DTC-60 High torque with less initial bite than DTC 70. Superior release and torque control characteristics. Brake pads designed for cars with high deceleration rates with or without down force. Recommended for use with DTC-70 when split friction between front and rear axle is desired.

HT 14 Very high torque with aggressive initial bite. Excellent modulation and release
characteristics. Brake pads designed for cars with extremely high deceleration rates and
down force.

HT 10 Intermediate to high torque with a smooth initial bite. Very consistent pedal feel. Excellent modulation and release characteristics.

Blue 9012 Medium/High torque and temperature compound with excellent brake modulation. #1 selling brake pad material for SCCA.
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The DTC 70 gives you the best performance and rotor wear. Havent tried a pad that really works as well. Sounds like your in the market for a Hawk Blue.

-Kyle

 

With a MOT of 1000F, I cannot foresee the Hawk Blues working well on the EVO. I'm currently using the DTC-70s in front and DTC-60s in the rear. They feel pretty much the same as the DTC-60s with maybe slightly more initial bite. I actually like the DTC-60s better.

 

Anyone have much experience running Ferodo DS3000s up front and DS2500s in the rear? Can you compare with the DTC70/60 setup?

I currently have PF97s all around and will switch to the DTC70/DTC60s once I get a stoptech bbk.

 

Lots of pad transfer problems with the 3000's. The 2500 is a good rear pad though. I've had good luck so far with the PFC-01's.

 

I just purchased the combo to run at Laguna in a couple of weeks. I'll let you know if I have the same problem. Thanks for the input.

 

I've been running PMU MAX900 in the front and PMU Titan Kai's in the rear with pretty good results. Best pad combo I have used so far on R-compounds. The MAX900's are also cheap compared at approx $190 a set.

 

The Blues work great, but eat rotors quickly. I use Performance Friction PF97. These are honest race pads that are used on the likes of Rolex Grand Am cars. With PF you can also run the 01 compound in the rear for addioional bias if you need it. You will get at least 7 days out of a set of fronts. They are slightly more $ than the blues, but over 7 days that difference is minimal + you don't get the rotor wear.

I drive to and from the track on them w/o any problem, and other than the dust and squeak, they work fine on the street.

Marek

 

The Hawk DTC pads are also very rotor friendly as well. I've done 5 track days on these pads and the rotors have barely worn at all. If anything, the rotors wore down more from street driving the pads to/from the track.

 

Is the brake dust really hard to clean off from those PF pads? I've used the PF 95.7 compound that RRE sells, and the brake dust just bakes itself onto the wheels if it ever comes in contact w/ any moisture.

The Hawk DTC pad dust washes off pretty easily.

 

i thought i was running 97's, but i was really running a track/street combo of theirs on track. (shipping mishap)

the part # is 1001-10.

Good stuff, lesser initial bite, life wasnt bad, and they go for 160 a set (fronts).

I'd see this as a pad that is more to the streetable side of a 97.

 

I had a full set of Hawk Blues and then I switched to the DTC60s. Hawk Blues were fine - I had only minimal fade problems (with a RacingBrake 332x28mm BBK). The 1000 MOT on the Hawk Blues certainly didn't seem to be an issue for me. I switched to DTC60s because the Hawk Blues' dust is very, very difficult to remove and they wear rotors quickly, especially at low temps.

I love the DTC60s, especially the release characteristic. I can selectively lock just the fronts or all 4 tires on my RS (I have DTC60s front and rear).

 

I have a set of PFC 97's in the front right now. Brake dust does seem to like to etch itself into parts of the rim. More worringly, the stuff is corrosive. Just noticed some rust streaks developing on the inside of both front rims that I will have to get taken care of asap (ideas anyone?). That said, the pad does have nice bite on the track (when up to temp) and is streetable to some extent. Just beware the dust and moisture, so clean the rims frequently.

 

I had Endless CCR before it's good but pad material transfer always caused brake vibration.