Bolt-in or weld-in? I am doing searches and comming up nil.

Josh

 

Actually, I was replying to Evo-Bill who lists his location in Chicago.

Anyway, I doubt TAD will do a prefab thing, that's not their thing. Good luck with the roll cage and have fun picking the dents out of your skull.

If you're going to have a cage built, have it built for a particular purpose - a roll cage that works for drag racing will not necessarily be safe for rally or road racing. The types of impact each cage is designed to absorb is different - ie you don't worry about center-punching a tree in a drag car but that's pretty common in rally. All cages are designed to be used in conjuction with other safety equipment - helmets and harnesses. If you get into an accident on the street in a car with a roll cage you run a very real risk of having your head bounce off the cage.

 

You just did!!

 

Bolt in. Here's more info:

CUSCO all powdercoated blue prices are approx retail @ 111 rate:
4pt $342 23.14 lbs
5pt $495 28.21 lbs
6pt $612 41lbs
7pt $765 46lbs
8pt $945 51.14lbs
Padding is avail. in assorted colors

Safety 21
4pt $270.27 28.66 lb
5pt $360.36 35.27 lb
6pt $513.51 52.9 lb
7pt $603.60 59.52 lb
8pt $693.69 66.13 lb

 

sorry if this question is off topic,
i would like to ask if i want to equiped 4 or 5 point seat belt harness, do we require a roll cage or roll bar, is there any way to put it on stock EVO VIII?

did anyone has pic of his/her EVO with aftermaket seat belt on EVO VIII?

appreciated!

-Ben

 

Mounting 4 or 5 point harnesses SHOULD have a roll cage. If you roll over wearing a harness, the roof caves in.....The harness will not let you move forward like a standard 3 point car seatbelt. You will be held tightly in your seat, upright. Your head will meet the celing of your car. Your spine will be compressed. You will no longer be having a good day.

Josh

 

I have seen several people at the race track connect their Y-type shoulder harness to the rear seatbelt buckle, i guess its for people who want to disconnect them after going to the track.

 

The tether strap hook for a child seat is another good anchor point. If it will hold a child seat, it should hold you. Use a caribiner or a link for chain that has the screw engagement. That is if you don't install a cage. Great spot if you are doing track events that don't require a roll bar or autocross.

If you get a rollbar/cage, post some pics.

Jason

 

Why would you need a harness if you had no roll cage?

if you flip, you will be crushed, since you won't be able to move to the left/right like you can with a 3 point DOT approved seatbelt.

 

The harness allows you to sit in the crappy Lancer seats without bracing yourself with the wheel or your legs. The cars in the US market will support the weight of the vehicle in the event of a rollover as I believe that is mandated by our government. I would not recommend road racing or rallying without a cage, nor is it usually sanctioned, but for an autocross or HPDE, it(the rollcage) may not be required.

It would definitely be safer with a cage, don't misread my input. Stock belts lack the ability to hold you securely during autocross. Harnesses allow you to drive instead of brace.

Jason

 

Are you absolutely sure about that? I went to install my harness on the child seat anchor because I like the straight pull it would give, and noticed something: The normal seatbelt anchors use 17mm socket while the child seat uses I believe 14mm. The hole in my Schroth harness bracket was so large I'd need a fender washer just to know the bolt won't slip through it (slight exaggeration, but the bolt almost does slip through the bracket). So anyway, that got me thinking, if it has a smaller bolt and is meant to hold a child under 70 pounds, maybe it isn't such a good idea to hold a 150 pound driver racing.

 

and I second the comment about the safety in a car with a harness and no roll cage. Although the danger only applies to rolling such a car. I use the racing harness for autocrossing, for the same reason as Jason... holding my body in place so I can focus on steering. Otherwise, I tuck the seatbelt under my seat and use the stock one (easier to reach the AC and radio controls anyway )

 

dam so what would be the best setup and still be streetable

 

I use one belt per anchor. I don't know the tensile strength of the anchor, but I can't imagine Mitsu allowing the anchor to marginal at best, it should be over-engineered. Another point I have seen used is the hook for latching the rear seat up. I would not trust it for anything but solo, but it does allow for the straightest pull. You should not use any racing harness on the street unless it is DOT approved and Schroth,and Corbeau's knockoff, are the only ones that I know are DOT approved.

Jason

 

Schroth is the only safe and legal setup for both uses. They attach to your c-pillar mount or the rear lap belt points.

Jason