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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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And some run 11's in the front
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 05:06 PM
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This wheel is the hotness, actually they both are.

Just to clarify, I have the 9.5" now, so I would be only going the 1/2 to the 10". My thought process was the 285's are meant for a 10" rim, but we all get away with the 9.5". So if I am buying a rim, why not get the ideal size. Problem with that is there are very few 18 x 10 rims, especially in black.
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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That's what paint is for !

According to Yok Japan's website the RX comes in Dark Gunmetal.
http://www.yokohamatire.jp/yrc/japan..._rz/index.html

This must be what you're looking at. If so, the RS comes in the same size and color. It has more evenly spaced spokes rather than being on the verge of 5 double spokes like the RZ. http://www.yokohamatire.jp/yrc/japan..._rs/index.html

Also the RGII comes in 18x10, but the closest you'll get to black without painting it is the dark chome finish. I think this will look KILLER on any car that black would look good on . . .
http://www.yokohamatire.jp/yrc/japan...rg2/index.html

If you can find the WedsSport SA-70 in 18x10 and dark grey color, they are going to be much cheaper than the Advan's, an just as light or lighter . . .

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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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I do like the Wedsports in Black Chrome, only thing is they aint cheap.

as far as Advans, I like the RZ more than RS and definately like the RG too.

Maybe I should just get the Enkeis painted and call it a day. I have a set of NTO3's in 17 x 9 I could run Hoosier wets, if they come in the right size. Problem with the 17's is they rub to much the way my car was aligned. Come to think of it, the RZ - SA70 - RPF1 all look similar...

Can't make up my mind here
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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That sounds like a good plan. The 17x9 should not rub at all if you are using a Hoosier Rain as you would want to run a narrower tire than you would with the dry tires. . .

For example, we run 285mm dry tires and 235-255 rain tires . . . remember - with rains wide is NOT better, as you just have MORE water that you need to evacuate to get down to the concrete with a wider tire. . .

The year Andy won nats in the rain ('05) they were on the stock Advans for rain tires while many other guys were running big fat Hoosier rain tires . . . just something to think about . . .
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. MR
The lip attaches to car with screws and it has tabs that protrude out. From what I remember, I drilled a small hole threw tabs to reuse stock hardware for undertray. I have the new lip in my garage and have not installed it yet, so it is not something I just did. That lip did not last long with daily driving it and how low the car sits. What I can confirm is that I was able to use my stock undertray with the Rexpeed lip
Thanks for the info, looks like I'll have to re-visit this one then as I'm in the same boat as kekek. If this one is any different than your first one, let me know!
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by EVOlutionary
That sounds like a good plan. The 17x9 should not rub at all if you are using a Hoosier Rain as you would want to run a narrower tire than you would with the dry tires. . .

For example, we run 285mm dry tires and 235-255 rain tires . . . remember - with rains wide is NOT better, as you just have MORE water that you need to evacuate to get down to the concrete with a wider tire. . .

The year Andy won nats in the rain ('05) they were on the stock Advans for rain tires while many other guys were running big fat Hoosier rain tires . . . just something to think about . . .
May I offer my sincere Thanks for talking some sense into me and saving me some $$. I am going to paint both set of rims black and call it a day. What was I thinking
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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Mike,

I've got my wets (245's) on the stock wheels, although they'll be moving to the 17x9's this year.

The Miller car was hauling this year. It's also making serious power on E85. Aaron was just driving the **** out of it though. Not sure how much of the speed is attributable to driver, wheel width or the extra HP. Probably a combo. Marshall also had a very fast first run on Wed that was right there with Tom and Aaron.
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kekek
I've got a question on the front lip/spoiler thing. My OEM Evo8 front lip is busted. Anyone know of a good place to find a replacement OEM OR aftermarket?

I would run some fancy carbon fiber thing but they all look like cone killers.

Also per the rules it looks like a spoiler can extend/protrude past the front bumper but not a splitter. Everyone agree with that?
i'd look into updating to the SE front lip. I don't really see any other good SP legal options.
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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i'd look into updating to the SE front lip. I don't really see any other good SP legal options.
Too bad that requires an Evo9 bumper. It does look nice though. There's also a VERY nice and somewhat subtle carbon piece made by some japanese company (firesports I think) and sold by a UK shop..something around 460 pounds or something.

I think I'll save the cash for things that make the car faster.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by griceiv
i'd look into updating to the SE front lip. I don't really see any other good SP legal options.


There's an APR carbon front lip installed with the SE lip sitting below it. The APR lip was much longer/bigger but angled in a way as to not be a cone catcher (not wider than the widest part of the front of the car)

Is that not SP legal? He used that in STU on this EVO IX and it looked great and was legal there. Down force? Sure, probably a little.

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This thing took a full season (~20 events with 2 drivers) of cone hits without damage.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by kekek
Also per the rules it looks like a spoiler can extend/protrude past the front bumper but not a splitter. Everyone agree with that?
I don't agree. There is an allowance to install a spoiler "under" the bumper but not "in front of" the bumper. I would consider anything extending forward of the bumper a splitter, even if it's not completely horizontal. The rules limit splitters from expanding the plan area of the car.

thus my recommendation of the SE lip. it circumvents the rules but is allowed because it's a stock piece.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 08:50 AM
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[Is that not SP legal? He used that in STU on this EVO IX and it looked great and was legal there. Down force? Sure, probably a little.
STU allows for 5 sq ft of splitter/rear wing. no such allowance in SP.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by griceiv
I don't agree. There is an allowance to install a spoiler "under" the bumper but not "in front of" the bumper. I would consider anything extending forward of the bumper a splitter, even if it's not completely horizontal. The rules limit splitters from expanding the plan area of the car.

thus my recommendation of the SE lip. it circumvents the rules but is allowed because it's a stock piece.
So then you would call the Rexpeed lip that Mike (Mr. MR) is planning on running as not legal for SP?

I really like this one, a bit cost prohibitive though in my case. Still sticks out a bit.

http://www.lancerregister.com/showth...hreadid=162797
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 11:21 AM
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Per the rule book:

I. Spoilers/splitters and cosmetic trim pieces are permitted. Side
skirts may not be used. Spoilers/splitters must comply with the
following subsections. The intent of this allowance is to accommodate
commonly available appearance kits, and replicas
thereof, which have no significant aerodynamic function at Solo
speeds.
1. A spoiler/splitter may be added to the front of the car below
the bumper. It may not extend rearward beyond the front
most part of the front wheel well openings, and may not
block normal grille or other openings, or obstruct lights.
Splitters may not protrude beyond the bumper. Openings
may not be used for the purpose of ducting air to the radiator
or oil cooler, but they may allow air to flow through a permitted
oil cooler provided no ducting is used. The spoiler may
not function as a wing.
As long as it doesn't extend past the forward most portion of the bumper then it would be legal. Of course that's rather subjective since ST provisions allow the replacement of the front bumper......
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