http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJvxG0qHzT4

Anyone know who this driver is, just watching this makes you a better driver, lol. Thats mad skills. He doesn't even care there is a telephone pole behind his car when he makes that last turn.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIV6-...eature=related

Or this one, this guy has *****.

 

And this is why I feel that rally drivers are the most gifted drivers in motorsports.

Please note... it's not like they get to try those corners over and over again. They run most of those roads cold.

 

that's GiGi Galli. Italian rally driver.

 

Thanks Greg, the first one I presume. Rally drivers are the best drivers on the planet.

 

second one was Miko Hirvonnen from about 2 years ago.

 

O' Thanks, now I can find more footage of them :].

 

GiGi Galli is the man! Guy is always doing crazy stuff

 

I have decided to build me an entry level car for Rally America, my friend said he would navigate. Has any of you guys did this and if so about how much will it cost. I also need to figure out what car to use.

 

this guy is Markko Märtin Ford Focus WRC

 

Sky's the limit for how much its going to cost. With entry level cars, the car is often the cheap part of the entire package.

Do you have a truck/van to haul the car and gear to events?
Do you have a suitable trailer?
Will you camp/sleep in truck or stay in hotels?
Will you use new tires or used?
How rough will you be on the car?
Event entry fees are in the $500-1500 range per weekend.

There are soo many vairables that there's really no one good answer. A safe bet is to block out $3000 for each event, assuming its a bare bones operation and you've got volunteer crew (in addition to your navvie). Just be ready to get hooked and start spending everything but the rent money

I'd suggest checking out www.specialstage.com as there's plenty of info on the rally scene, and you'll get better answers on how much it'll cost to campaign a Group2 than you'd get on some AWD forum.

Dave

 

That's one of my favorite short vids...amazing stuff...and probably went a long way towards convincing me I needed to build an Evo and not a subie! FTW!

Dave

 

Thanks but I'm gonna have to put this on hold now. I found a suitable car tuesday, unfortunatly the very same day I walk in my house and catch a thief going through my stuff. Then today find out I am gonna be laid off due to nobody wanting to dish out money because of the econimy. I run heavy eguipment.

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Do you have a truck/van to haul the car and gear to events?
Do you have a suitable trailer? see above

No but my brother has a 50k dodge diesel king cab he bought last year and a good trailer. Also since these cars are street legal and must remain stock. I see no reason to trailor it, I can drive it there. If I wreck it I'll think of something. I'm only gona do events within a certain distance from my house anyway. Rally Tennessee for one and its all paved.

Will you camp/sleep in truck or stay in hotels?

Honestly, I will just camp, after being in the Army 8 years I see no need to get a room. I can take a shower at a truck stop for a few bucks.

Will you use new tires or used?

I'll buy new tires, I'll use them till I think I need better ones. I'll bring extra tires.

How rough will you be on the car?

Kinda hard to answer that. I'll take care of it as best I can, but I think the course kinda has alote of say in how rough I will be. I will be maintaining the fluids, changing the oils, etc myself.

Event entry fees are in the $500-1500 range per weekend.

I see this as more of a problem than anything said so far. Do you have a link to this.

And to the other guy. I will be driving the car and a long time Army friend said he would be my navigator. He likes navigation and was recently the company navigator for his First Sergeant in Iraq. Yea we know this is a differant kind of navigation. I see no reason why we can't use a GPS with display to aid us too though. We will both have to learn rally navigation. We can do that on the weekend locally. It will just take some practice. I already been watching videos people posted on the net. I already understand most of it. I've had several people tell me to either rent or buy an already built car. I'm a do it yourself person and don't understand why I should do this. I can build it myself. As long as I follow the rules what does it matter. Do you guys think when rallys first started there was cars to buy. A friend on here sent me a link to a car for 16k with spare parts that was already set up.

Well thats fine and all but I found a very good car and told the guy what I was gonna use it for. He said he would let me have it for 2800 tax title tags and all. I drove the car flat out on the highway and it will do fine. Also yesterday talked to a guy who builds race cages and race chassis for race cars. He just had surgery but told me to see him in 3 weeks. I said well I need a 12 point or better cage how much will that cost. He said he would do it for me for around 600 to 800. Maybe I should just start building cars and listing them. There isn't that much to these cars. I don't understand why I should pay someone else to do what I can get done cheaper myself.

 

Lots to learn young jedi.

Did you get the pm I sent you on getting started? Like I said in the PM, either buy a car that is done or rent one for a race or two.

You also NEED a support truck if for no other reason than to meet you at service areas with the parts you will need for the next set of stages. You can not carry all that stuff with you and you can not carry all the spare parts and tires and other bits you will need in the car. Forget it.

As a rule of thumb, every time we pulled out to go to a race it was at least $5000. Between prep, parts, tires and fuel, hotels and feeding the crew you were LUCKY to get away with that. You can get away with spending less for sure but not a lot less. There is no cheap form of racing that I know of, just less expensive.

On navigation. GPS is pretty much useless. Its more like shouting in shorthand to let you know how fast you MAY be able to take whats over the next blind curve as well as the next 2 or 3 things you need to know after that. It's unlike navigation in any other meaningful sense. There are forums on special stage for nav's as well.

Tires, go with used. We always sold our used tires as we had a good tire sponsor and didn't need to use them to the bone. As such we gave better deals on tires to a few folks who needed them and we got a little coin out of the deal. Its a win-win for some folks and if you find a source that will sell you tires used for only a few stages you will have more cash for other things. You will need it.

 

i wish i had the ***** to rally my 8=)