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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 08:21 AM
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its possible if u have the extra money to spent
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 08:26 AM
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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However, the focus of this thread is not S-car versus Evo, its just "drift in an Evo." Which can and has been done.
Actually the title is "drift in a evo" the focus of the thread was...

I know it was done for the movie. But does any one else do it. its it goof for drifting and worth the time and money
Hence my post....

Can it be done, yes, with enough money and mods any car is a drift car.


Also, I point out that it is NOT worth the time and money, there are much better choices out there that are better designed for drifting and cost WAY less to make work well. Was I off topic, I thought the OP wanted to know if it was worth the time and money. If offering a better, cheaper, less time consuming alternative was off topic, then I apologize.

OP, yes people have done it, there are better choices in terms of design, and no, IMO it is not worth it in terms of time or overall cost.

I'm not saying people should convert EVos to use them as RWD drift cars. I think it would make much more sense to use a cheaper S-car rather then dumbing down an Evo.
GPTourer seems to agree with my assessment.

I don't see many S-cars in rally.
lolhehehe jk I'm just bustin' ur bells!

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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by sith_killer_99
Also, I point out that it is NOT worth the time and money, there are much better choices out there that are better designed for drifting and cost WAY less to make work well.

GPTourer seems to agree with my assessment.
I do agree with you, but I just have to focus on this one statement you made for a second. I don't think ANY car was designed for drifiting. I think it just worked out that way for the S-car. It was just in the right place at errr, "right" time - depending on how you feel about drifting. I don't think Nissan engineers set out to make a mad tyte drift machine when they designed the car. But If you mess with the suspension, use shaved tires, etc etc, voila! Tofu Madness! If Mitsubishi had made the Eclipse or FTO RWD and put a 4G63 under the hood, it could have been the same for it. OR if Toyota had kept the Corolla RWD and put a 3SGTE in it, same thing MIGHT have happened. Now theres a whole section of the aftermarket creating drift parts for the S-cars, so its cheap and easy to make one.

Now drifting is mainstream. Big sponsors, big money. Other manufacturers want in. Toyota says, "We want a Scion tc to drift." And they gots deep pockets. Suddenly there's a RWD tC with a longitudinally mounted 3SGE using an Avensis (JDM AWD variant of the same vehicle) rear end. Maybe it will drift well, maybe it won't but its there. Same with the Evo, exept they kept the transverse layout. IF Mitsubishi were behind the effort, and they hired top drivers, perhaps the cars would do better. But right now I think the've been mediocre at best. I think yes, part of that is because the cars just aren't there yet development wise, but a lot of it is the fact they don't have the money behind them of the other teams, and they don't have the best drivers.

Cliffs. Enough money can make any car a drifter. How good a drifter depends on skill and money. Call Millen up if you want a RWD kit for your Evo.

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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 08:16 AM
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^ You are correct, the S-cars were introduced long before drifting became popular. What I was attempting to convey, is that there are cars whose design is better suited for the purpose of drifting.

If Mitsubishi had made the Eclipse or FTO RWD and put a 4G63 under the hood, it could have been the same for it. OR if Toyota had kept the Corolla RWD and put a 3SGTE in it, same thing MIGHT have happened.
I agree, but it was Nissan who kept their S-cars in the RWD format when so many were switching over to the much more popular FWD. Nissan was appealing to a different market, not drifters, but the fans of RWD, of which there are many, especially in the US. This ended up being a real boon for Nissan when drifting took off.

Because the 240 had been sold as an entry/mid level car and because there were so many varieties, Coupe, Hatchback, Convertible, Silvia, etc. it was even better. I could probably put 6 S-13's out, set them up side by side and each one would have a different and unique look.

Additionally, it was the availability (and easy swap) of the SR and RB series engines for RWD applications and their incredible potential to make serious horsepower that further propelled these cards into the limelight.

BTW, I've seen old school Corolla's turned into drift cars with much success! lol (Initial D)

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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 09:29 AM
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I agree, but it was Nissan who kept their S-cars in the RWD format when so many were switching over to the much more popular FWD. Nissan was appealing to a different market, not drifters, but the fans of RWD, of which there are many, especially in the US. This ended up being a real boon for Nissan when drifting took off.
Maybe, but I don't think it helped Nissan too much. The 240SX didn't sell well here against the Mustang and cheaper FWD cars like the Eclipse. Drifting didn't really take off until after they ceased production of the 240SX/Silvia. They don't make money off of used cars. They only people it has a chance to help is Hyundai, who currently has a new car available. Nissan has supposedly shelved their Silvia replacement, which is a shame, because I'd much rather buy one from them then the Genesis coupe if I were in the market for an RWD turbo car.
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 11:03 AM
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I know its bad to do a long drifting turn. in a evo can you do any thing to the car to make it a little better for a slide when say your at the track or auto x
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 04:13 PM
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Maybe, but I don't think it helped Nissan too much. The 240SX didn't sell well here against the Mustang and cheaper FWD cars like the Eclipse. Drifting didn't really take off until after they ceased production of the 240SX/Silvia. They don't make money off of used cars.
Yes and no, the Mustang is/was a different type of car all together, it has much higher appeal to the American Muscle Car crowd. Just look around, Mustangs are a dime a dozen, they are everywhere, my neighbor has two. It's hard to compete with that. I agree the Eclipse and other FWD vehicles did better in terms of sales. However, 240's did well enough, back in 2000, when I bought mine there were 240's all over the place.

As for it helping Nissan or not, in the long run, mostly due to drifting, I believe it has helped Nissan. So many of the 240's have been converted to drift vehicles, that it has helped to get the Nissan name out there in the world of performance machines. Maybe not as much as the Skyline, but still. Of course most people do not realize that these vehicles have SR20 swaps or older Skyline motors, all they know is that it's a Nissan. Nissan may not get money from the drift scene directly, but I'm sure it doesn't hurt their sales. This is why I believe it ended up being a boon for Nissan publicity is publicity.

This lowly entry/mid level car has graced the covers of numerous tuner magazines. In terms of that type of publicity the Nissan 240SX likely falls just behind the Skyline and perhaps the Z's. The fact that the 240 dominates drifting doesn't hurt Nissan either. Any time a car mfg. can boast 6 of the top 10 cars in a major auto sporting event for the year is a big deal. The 240SX took 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 7th and 9th place in the 2006 Formula D Championship.

Nissan has supposedly shelved their Silvia replacement, which is a shame, because I'd much rather buy one from them then the Genesis coupe if I were in the market for an RWD turbo car.
Agreed, I was looking forward to seeing what Nissan would do with the proposed/alleged/reported/secret S-16.Even tough I'm not currently in the market for a RWD vehicle. I'm sure Nissan will dig it out in a couple of years, once the economy has gotten better. This was just a good business decision. On the up side Nissan has the experience, technology, and production down, Hyundai is still playing catch up in a lot of areas. So long as Nissan doesn't wait too long to introduce the S-16, they should be able to compete against the Genesis coupe...hopefully.
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