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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 12:43 PM
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SCCA T2 Evo - Yay or Nay?

I currently race a Spec Miata but I'd like to try something different. I'm entertaining the idea of turning my 2005 Evo VIII into a SCCA T2 car. As such, the engine and drivetrain would remain mostly stock so we're not talking big power here.

How well do these cars hold up to regular racing? How reliable and trouble-free are they? For racing at the Regional level, how expensive is it to race these cars (tires, brake pads, maintenance, etc.)? I'd prefer to run on 92 octane pump gas and not the 100 octane race fuel. Which clutch do you use (the SCCA rules didn't mention the clutch at all)? What should a prospective T2 Evo racer know before taking the plunge?

Thanks for any advice and info!
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 02:25 PM
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From my experience just tracking a Evo I would have to say it is expensive. Its a heavy car and an even heavier car in T2 from what I have read.
That being said you will go through expendables quite quickly and those are expensive after you factor in the all the fluids being replaced after every weekend I assume.
The good thing about the Evo however, is that in T2 trim it should prove to be very reliable.
From what I have seen AMS has the right recipe and can provide you with everything you need short of some basic safety equipment.
Hopefully Marty and Cj will chime in shortly.
Good luck!
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 04:17 PM
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Do you mean like BSP-T2? If so, it'll be kinda expensive since T2s run together and are then indexed. You'll be going against porsches and the like and will need to really get your suspension setup together.

That being said, you're looking at a few $K for suspension, some dunlop direza Z1 SS tires, some decent brake pads that will most likely be street/track intermediate or track level, and some good camber plates.

Also, look into running E85. It's 105 Oct for cheap and only requires bigger injectors, upgraded fuel pump, and wideband AFR.
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 04:23 PM
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Do you mean like BSP-T2? If so, it'll be kinda expensive since T2s run together and are then indexed. You'll be going against porsches and the like and will need to really get your suspension setup together.

That being said, you're looking at a few $K for suspension, some dunlop direza Z1 SS tires, some decent brake pads that will most likely be street/track intermediate or track level, and some good camber plates.

Also, look into running E85. It's 105 Oct for cheap and only requires bigger injectors, upgraded fuel pump, and wideband AFR.
Nope. I'm talking about a race car, not an autox car. SCCA road racing.
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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I have more fun on the track in my Spec E30 than the Evo, though the Evo is stock. Not least of which is the fact that it will not give my checkbook as much of a pounding if I ball it up or even just rub fenders.

T2 is time trials or wheel to wheel? I would stick with the Miata if you are going wheel to wheel unless you can afford to throw away an Evo.
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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I have more fun on the track in my Spec E30 than the Evo, though the Evo is stock. Not least of which is the fact that it will not give my checkbook as much of a pounding if I ball it up or even just rub fenders.

T2 is time trials or wheel to wheel? I would stick with the Miata if you are going wheel to wheel unless you can afford to throw away an Evo.
Do you race your SE30 in NorCal or SoCal? I met a few SE30 guys back when I lived in SoCal (all but one were from NorCal).
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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Marty runs in T2.

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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 05:40 PM
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I was about to post that. Yeah, there is Marty and CJ. I think there is someone else also but i dont recall his name. Those are the guys you need to be asking for info.

Whats ironic is that i have 2 friends (one with an Evo and one with a STi), and both of them are about to start racing in Spec Miata. If you really want to try something different, race with NASA in Super Touring. I race my Evo 9 with Socal NASA in Super Touring. So much fun! You can check out some info on my website which is in my sig. If you have any questions let me know.
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Originally Posted by MikeColangelo
I currently race a Spec Miata but I'd like to try something different. I'm entertaining the idea of turning my 2005 Evo VIII into a SCCA T2 car. As such, the engine and drivetrain would remain mostly stock so we're not talking big power here.

How well do these cars hold up to regular racing? How reliable and trouble-free are they? For racing at the Regional level, how expensive is it to race these cars (tires, brake pads, maintenance, etc.)? I'd prefer to run on 92 octane pump gas and not the 100 octane race fuel. Which clutch do you use (the SCCA rules didn't mention the clutch at all)? What should a prospective T2 Evo racer know before taking the plunge?

Thanks for any advice and info!
Im in with you, Im trying to accomplish the same goal so any advice you or any others have would be greatly appreciated!
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 08:28 AM
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I was about to post that. Yeah, there is Marty and CJ. Idifferent, race with NASA in Super Touring. I race my Evo 9 with Socal NASA in Super Touring.
If ST2 had a decent field up here in NorCal I'd be competing in that class.
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 09:26 AM
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Super Touring is a joke, you should be having far more fun in SM. T2 is also very competitive and a good class, but much more expensive.

Closer racing, closer spec cars, bigger fields, and winning in it nationally actually gets you some recognition.

Unless you have a couple hundred thousand burning a hole in your pocket, to race an evo prepared to any level competitively its going to cost a LOT more than SM. I raced SM for three years, there are not too many other cars out there that you can destroy a chassis and rebuild a new car with the leftover parts for 4-5k...

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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 09:55 AM
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Super Touring is a joke, you should be having far more fun in SM. T2 is also very competitive and a good class, but much more expensive.

Closer racing, closer spec cars, bigger fields, and winning in it nationally actually gets you some recognition.

Unless you have a couple hundred thousand burning a hole in your pocket, to race an evo prepared to any level competitively its going to cost a LOT more than SM. I raced SM for three years, there are not too many other cars out there that you can destroy a chassis and rebuild a new car with the leftover parts for 4-5k...

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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 11:22 AM
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 11:44 AM
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Super touring will be really awesome I think! Just needs a little time to blossom... lol. In the midwest it is dead, maybe 2 to 3 cars. But nationals would be fun. Although racing one or two guys all year would not be great prep for a very big event...
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by scorke
Super Touring is a joke, you should be having far more fun in SM. T2 is also very competitive and a good class, but much more expensive.

Closer racing, closer spec cars, bigger fields, and winning in it nationally actually gets you some recognition.

Unless you have a couple hundred thousand burning a hole in your pocket, to race an evo prepared to any level competitively its going to cost a LOT more than SM. I raced SM for three years, there are not too many other cars out there that you can destroy a chassis and rebuild a new car with the leftover parts for 4-5k...

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Super Touring is a joke? What are you talking about? Please elaborate on that.

Last year at Nationals there were around 20 ST2 cars. That is a huge field of cars for a higher class series. Everyone is suffering this year, so we will not have as many ST2 cars, but that is an entirely different story. Waiting for your explanation.
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