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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 07:32 PM
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The reason you have so many people rallying Subarus is b/c the platform since 1994 has had car that "Mr. Potato head" with the more modern cars. Subaru also offers contingency money to people racing their products. There's usually on site parts support so if you happen to break something you don't have a spare for, you're likely to be able to go buy what you need....or borrow it from another competitor.

Racing an Evo means you need a 2003 or newer, and no help from corporate. Its not that they're not good rally platforms, its simply cost driving most people's decisions. Hell, Evo's took 1st & 2nd in the rally america series this year, right?

I've been looking to get into rallying, but I see no need to try and chase the top guys on a budget that's 1/100th of what they're spending. Simply put, privateer teams should be supporting the series that's supporting them....go MaxAattack!

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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveK
Racing an Evo means you need a 2003 or newer, and no help from corporate. Its not that they're not good rally platforms, its simply cost driving most people's decisions. Hell, Evo's took 1st & 2nd in the rally america series this year, right?
Hell yea Evos took first and second

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I've been looking to get into rallying, but I see no need to try and chase the top guys on a budget that's 1/100th of what they're spending. Simply put, privateer teams should be supporting the series that's supporting them....go MaxAattack!
You need to get NOS to wallet up and get you into Rally America .
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 08:17 PM
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You need to get NOS to wallet up and get you into Rally America .
They've got ACP who's been doing well, we're just a very small part of their racing portfolio, holding down the hillclimb position. If you know anyone else who's looking to back a privateer team, LMK!

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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveK
They've got ACP who's been doing well, we're just a very small part of their racing portfolio, holding down the hillclimb position. If you know anyone else who's looking to back a privateer team, LMK!

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I would back you with free tech and pit help if that means anything haha! All my money unfortunately gets eaten by the Evo, Sportback and dirtyevo.com
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 09:13 PM
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I would back you with free tech and pit help if that means anything haha! All my money unfortunately gets eaten by the Evo, Sportback and dirtyevo.com
If we get to travel to your area, pit help would be huge! We may try to run a few euro rallycross events next year, but for rallies, we're pretty set on getting our BMW Compact completed.

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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveK
They've got ACP who's been doing well, we're just a very small part of their racing portfolio, holding down the hillclimb position. If you know anyone else who's looking to back a privateer team, LMK!

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Wasnt SBR looking to field a rally car again? I know Andrew left them after 2007, but since I dont know the details and cant say why, it might be something to look into.
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveK
If we get to travel to your area, pit help would be huge! We may try to run a few euro rallycross events next year, but for rallies, we're pretty set on getting our BMW Compact completed.

Dave
I would love to help in any way possible, let me know. I am in Michigan but frequently am looking for excuses to go out east and see my family, so anywhere in the midwest or east let me know

There's a hillclimb section I added recently to dirtyevo.com that you may enjoy populating
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 10:37 PM
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Wasnt SBR looking to field a rally car again? I know Andrew left them after 2007, but since I dont know the details and cant say why, it might be something to look into.
I've been fortunate to work with AMS every year we've run our car and they always go the extra mile. Couldn't ask for a better group to be associated with.

IMO, no tuners have the budget to spend the $1m plus needed for a full blown top level RA effort. I think the key to doing it right is find funding (hit the lottery, nail a double back flip, or make your own fortune) then find a shop that is good in whatever racing arena you're racing in.

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I would love to help in any way possible, let me know. I am in Michigan but frequently am looking for excuses to go out east and see my family, so anywhere in the midwest or east let me know

There's a hillclimb section I added recently to dirtyevo.com that you may enjoy populating
I grew up in New England, so I'm actually trying to decide between MWHC and PPIHC for 2011. Unfortunately they're both on the same weekend.

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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 04:26 AM
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Ppihc!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveK
The reason you have so many people rallying Subarus is b/c the platform since 1994 has had car that "Mr. Potato head" with the more modern cars. Subaru also offers contingency money to people racing their products. There's usually on site parts support so if you happen to break something you don't have a spare for, you're likely to be able to go buy what you need....or borrow it from another competitor.

Racing an Evo means you need a 2003 or newer, and no help from corporate. Its not that they're not good rally platforms, its simply cost driving most people's decisions. Hell, Evo's took 1st & 2nd in the rally america series this year, right?

I've been looking to get into rallying, but I see no need to try and chase the top guys on a budget that's 1/100th of what they're spending. Simply put, privateer teams should be supporting the series that's supporting them....go MaxAattack!

Dave
What you just discribed over here that it true in Eu too. Unless you are canadien , i think they got something from the Mitsubishi there. And in the rally there is alwasy two groupe. One with money and without ..../thats me LOL/
Also 2003 was 7 years ago.... The Subarus they running the Rally not much, if they older. You can get an Evo shell cheap today. Besides the DSM is well over here before that. Fact i think it came a same year as a first WRX, if not sooner. THats about the money side from Mitsubishi vs subaru.
I do not think i actually explain myself clearly , based on you guys answere here.

Im talking about the total lack of knowlidge about the Rally, in this and other Mitshubishi sites vs the Subaru. If people would know more about rally , you can bet on it you would see MUCH more people on the side of the Rally or the hill climbs etc.
Lets face it, most people buys EVo because they are COOL , not because they actually know what they buy really. Most of them learns in here what is the Evo about if they come down to the Motorsport section.
Really not iteresting the car is build for racing pruposes, and the racing threads actually is the very bottom on the page? Below the following sections:

- EVoM forums... daaaa....
- EVolution X forum
- evolution 1-9 forum
- lancer Ralli art forum
- Lancer forum
- market place
- vendor forum
- COMPETITION
- US regional forums
- miscellaneous....

And of course all the sub sections in each section. Hell i needed at leats 2 months before i actually find the rally section in here , when i signed up...

Anyway im sure you guys get where im goin with this... The first sections should be esaly swapped with the competition one without any harm or lost interst... But maybe gain some knowlidge about they own car whe they see the Competition section, including - auto X - drag - time attack - road race - hill climb - rally etc....


I have spoken enough .

Rob

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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveK
I've been fortunate to work with AMS every year we've run our car and they always go the extra mile. Couldn't ask for a better group to be associated with.

IMO, no tuners have the budget to spend the $1m plus needed for a full blown top level RA effort. I think the key to doing it right is find funding (hit the lottery, nail a double back flip, or make your own fortune) then find a shop that is good in whatever racing arena you're racing in.



I grew up in New England, so I'm actually trying to decide between MWHC and PPIHC for 2011. Unfortunately they're both on the same weekend.

Dave
Dave.... I'll be dead honest

Skipp the Pikes peak this time. You did and will run it. But this event should be a great one too. How many times you will have an opurtunity to run it?
I'll will do it ZFOR SURE. As long as they accept my entry i'll be there , for me its done deal.
If you need a service crew, i might/99%/ can get you in, one of the best in the Rally .
I hope i can convince them to come up with me there, if they do not have an other /rally teams with more much more money/ obligation. If they dont come /i doubt it though/ i still can and will get some guys together for service, and they are great and enthusiastic.
Either way you should run this. And finally i meet you in person LOL
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 06:21 AM
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Look ,Dave , im comming forma considered here as a poor country. ?sometimes they even ask we did have a Micro when i came here ... LOL/
!0 million people, and look how the rally looks like there... But i can even go back to the dark communist area...if you wish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYSbXWxkWdk

/ps , everything there at least cost 40 -100% more, and the wage is ... well its an opposite/
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 07:14 AM
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What you just discribed over here that it true in Eu too. Unless you are canadien , i think they got something from the Mitsubishi there.
Yes, Mitsu has a contingency program in the Canadian Rally Championship:

http://www.carsrally.ca/CARSRally/De...aspx?tabid=131
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS

- EVoM forums... daaaa....
- EVolution X forum
- evolution 1-9 forum
- lancer Ralli art forum
- Lancer forum
- market place
- vendor forum
- COMPETITION
- US regional forums
- miscellaneous....

And of course all the sub sections in each section. Hell i needed at leats 2 months before i actually find the rally section in here , when i signed up...


Rob
This is why you hop over to another forum for you rally needs
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 11:06 AM
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Yes, Mitsu has a contingency program in the Canadian Rally Championship:

http://www.carsrally.ca/CARSRally/De...aspx?tabid=131
Thanks!! Good info. i maybe need to move up there, it is 5 hours anyway from me LOL
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