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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 08:27 PM
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I dont want to sound like one of those haterpoints but i dont like the video they posted. Cameras that are mounted on the outside like that provide useless video for me. The only type of videos that are useful for me, and enjoyable to watch, are the ones that you can see straight out the windshield, and at the same time you can see the drivers hands, and legs/feet if possible. This way not only can i see what the driver is actually doing (input), i can also see where he is going (output).
No haterpoint, just preference

I also enjoy it the way you stated, but I guess I just try and work with what is up.

Last time I synched the driver and outside videos in different windows just so I can do as such
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Old Apr 4, 2010 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Bueller
I dont want to sound like one of those haterpoints but i dont like the video they posted. Cameras that are mounted on the outside like that provide useless video for me. The only type of videos that are useful for me, and enjoyable to watch, are the ones that you can see straight out the windshield, and at the same time you can see the drivers hands, and legs/feet if possible. This way not only can i see what the driver is actually doing (input), i can also see where he is going (output).
Not everyone watches the same TV shows, Not everyone listens to the same music and if you don’t “like” the video that’s cool.

The reason I don’t combine driver/track views on the SSE car is that the camera system we use degrades the quality of the picture when we mix them and the end result is an unacceptable video.

So let me explain why this particular video was made and why I posted it. We use many cameras, from many different angles and they are always used for improving on what we do from out to out and lap to lap. The original purpose and still is, is to collect data and at no point in time are these being done to win some type of popularity contest. However as a second thought though I decided that putting some of these out for public consumption would give those that “do” like these kind of videos, a perspective of some of the things we do to constantly improve.

In this particular case we are always trying to reduce our ride height and at the same time we also want to take full advantage of every inch of the track, which means that we will use as much of the curbing as possible to achieve that. This view gives us a perspective of just that and being able to watch the stability of the car over those curbs is important (and until we turn on laser ride height this is how we will accomplish gathering this information) and how much of the curb we use, is one more important data point (among many that we use to setup the car). Also listening to this particular audio gives us additional information from the BOV on lifting/shifting and then possible scraping noises which may or may not be of value depending on other circumstances.

As a side note I have posted two more videos of this 1:43.2 lap and it is still not what you'd prefer, but it is one of the driver and one of the track separately. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saxNigQqUvw and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DcEZtOC6rk

So, sorry that you didn’t like it, but I learned long ago that you just can’t please everyone all of the time. Maybe next time.

dk
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Old Apr 4, 2010 | 09:27 AM
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Thanks for that - looking forward to great results from "Down Under"

- Best of luck
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Old Apr 4, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dk11
Not everyone watches the same TV shows, Not everyone listens to the same music and if you don’t “like” the video that’s cool.

The reason I don’t combine driver/track views on the SSE car is that the camera system we use degrades the quality of the picture when we mix them and the end result is an unacceptable video.

So let me explain why this particular video was made and why I posted it. We use many cameras, from many different angles and they are always used for improving on what we do from out to out and lap to lap. The original purpose and still is, is to collect data and at no point in time are these being done to win some type of popularity contest. However as a second thought though I decided that putting some of these out for public consumption would give those that “do” like these kind of videos, a perspective of some of the things we do to constantly improve.

In this particular case we are always trying to reduce our ride height and at the same time we also want to take full advantage of every inch of the track, which means that we will use as much of the curbing as possible to achieve that. This view gives us a perspective of just that and being able to watch the stability of the car over those curbs is important (and until we turn on laser ride height this is how we will accomplish gathering this information) and how much of the curb we use, is one more important data point (among many that we use to setup the car). Also listening to this particular audio gives us additional information from the BOV on lifting/shifting and then possible scraping noises which may or may not be of value depending on other circumstances.

As a side note I have posted two more videos of this 1:43.2 lap and it is still not what you'd prefer, but it is one of the driver and one of the track separately. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saxNigQqUvw and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DcEZtOC6rk

So, sorry that you didn’t like it, but I learned long ago that you just can’t please everyone all of the time. Maybe next time.

dk
Hi. Are you Dennis? If so i met you very briefly at MOD. Thanks for the feedback. I was sure there was a reason why you mount your cameras where you mount them. I mount my camera in the location i mount it for a reason also. I started racing last year, so i love watching the type of in-car footage i noted because it gives me the opportunity to learn. Id love to learn from you guys also, so heres an idea, add a camera to my liking just for me.
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Old Apr 4, 2010 | 07:39 PM
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Out of curiosity, what cars kind of cars would be turning these times, ie. ALMS GTC, Grand Am GT Conti challenge, SWC GT, GTS, TC, etc...?
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Old Apr 4, 2010 | 07:50 PM
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congrats on the record, lets see how long it lasts!
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Old Apr 4, 2010 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by meanmud
Out of curiosity, what cars kind of cars would be turning these times, ie. ALMS GTC, Grand Am GT Conti challenge, SWC GT, GTS, TC, etc...?
There is no way a TC is going to come close to a 1:43. Im guessing the TC racecars can run around +10sec slower than that...somewhere around the 1:54-1:56 range.
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 12:21 AM
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That's some good information. Good luck at the world time attack!
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 08:48 AM
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Based on some comments that Billy Johnson made on another forum the unlimited class time attack cars run times between GT class and prototypes in both ALMS and Rolex. Most of the time attack cars are making more power than the GT cars in those series. I think at Cal Speedway they were almost running prototype times, and were clearly faster than the GT cars laps.
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 09:09 AM
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When we ran at Cal Speedway we (Factor X and AMS) were inside the top 5 for DP last time they ran there. I also remember us going quicker that World Challenge GT in years past (before we were on full slicks). That was impressive as well given the lack of sophistication and testing (and OK $$$) an TA car gets vs. a Pro series race car.

That is what SSE is smartly bringing to the table, applying a very high level of engineering and process to the Unlimited World of TA, records are bound to fall and the car is and should be faster than any sedan lap times of any series because the rules are so much less constrictive than any other sedan series in the world.

Congrats again SSE great job, way to raise the bar and show what TA cars can do

Any rumor yet of the HKS car coming back?
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 06:35 PM
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Watching the in car video of the driver was good, efficient and smooth. I have decided to purchase the Race Keeper data/video system with multiple camera's. World Challenge has chose the system for it's video production from all cars. Maybe the TA top teams could use a shared video system with data for a internet or cable production. So not only could you see the finish timed results you would show each run with on screen data like elapse time, rpm, mph and segment times like at the Olympics down hill competition.

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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jid2
Based on some comments that Billy Johnson made on another forum the unlimited class time attack cars run times between GT class and prototypes in both ALMS and Rolex. Most of the time attack cars are making more power than the GT cars in those series.
I would think the Prototypes are WAY different in ALMS & Grand Am, as well as their respective GT classes. Pretty certain TA cars are not touching ALMS LMP1 times, but maybe getting close to the Grand Am
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 08:43 PM
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The all-conquering Toyota GTP car did a 1:33.8 for the Daytona lap record in the early 90s. This year's boxcar pole time was a 1:40.8. Not so far off, despite the looks.

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