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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 05:59 AM
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Nobody has answered my questions on rear pads? Do they need to be upgraded as well and what do most of you guys use?
Yes you should if you're changing your fronts - keep them identical. Last thing you want to be concerned about is unbalanced braking on your first day. Just make sure you're confident and comfortable with the car "before" you go to the track, so that you can enjoy the first day and learn rather than be worried about something not holding up or breaking.
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 06:18 AM
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Better brakes never hurts, But the drivers comfort level with the feel of the car, is paramount to your first venture on track. Listen to your instructor !! And try not to be to nervous about driving "on track" it is MUCH safer than any street. You will have a great time for sure, then you will be hooked like the rest of us. Pete
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 06:41 AM
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yes it will definitely be worth it. for me a driver mod is the best and most useful mod you could do. plus you will need to get as much lesson and seat time as possible. just like what spdracerut said fresh fuilds is very important. most of all the brakes. if you can, bleed your brakes for day 1 & 2.
Now here's a sensible man. I totall agree with these comments.

A driving school will ALWAYS be the best mod. Most gear heads cars have been modified way past their ability. At a recent school I ran one of my female associates in he bone stock Colbolt ran rings round a guy in his very modified 450bhp STi

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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 07:04 AM
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What are a decent set of track pads? Are they going to streetable or just dedicated to the track?
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 07:12 AM
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^^I would get a set of Hawk HP+ (or Ferrodo 2500s) for every corner and take them with you to the track. Check your current pads every other session to make sure that you have material left, swap them if you need to. You can run the HP+ on the street as well.

Have a great time!!
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 07:16 AM
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I dont think you need to go out and buy new pads for your first event. run what you have on the car, as long as there is more the 50% material left, and you'll be fine. I would be more worried about flushing the brake fluid. you will probably boil the fluid before you cook the pads on your first time out. Castrol LMA is a good fluid if you don't want to drop the coin for Motul. Also flush the clutch while you're at it.

you have lots of good advice in this thread, if you follow it you're going to have a great time!
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TxEvo8
^^I would get a set of Hawk HP+ (or Ferrodo 2500s) for every corner and take them with you to the track. Check your current pads every other session to make sure that you have material left, swap them if you need to. You can run the HP+ on the street as well.

Have a great time!!
I have ferodos 2500 on now why is it that most are saying there not good enough? I think I am gonnna need a new set so what should I get or should I stick with ferodos or upgrade to a more track pad and use these as a dd pad until there done?
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 08:07 AM
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I have ferodos 2500 on now why is it that most are saying there not good enough? I think I am gonnna need a new set so what should I get or should I stick with ferodos or upgrade to a more track pad and use these as a dd pad until there done?
The more experience that you get hot lapping, the further you will push the brakes to their limit, so eventually the 2500s will not be up to the task. But for now, use the 2500s, then have a spare set to use as your street pads when you have progressed enough to require track pads. If you start tracking your car on a regular basis, a spare set of brake pads is a requirement everytime you go out.
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 08:08 AM
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EriCs,

If you want to beef your brakes up a bit, you may want to try the new CL RC5+ compound. I think they would be perfect for your needs. They are completely streetable (low dust, low noise), but have great bite from cold to hot. They have been torture-tested on the track by a number of users, and have held up quite well. You can see some reviews here: http://www.essexparts.com/brake-pads...s/cl-customers

You won't be pushing them nearly as hard as most of these guys, and I think they would be just about ideal for your situation. I believe they are the best street/track pad available on the market today for the Evo. They will certainly provide far superior performance and much longer wear vs. Hawk HP+, with less dust and noise. I wouldn't be at all surprised if a set of RC5+ lasted you the rest of the year for daily driving and the occasional monthly track event, autoX, etc.
Front Evo IX= http://www.essexparts.com/shop/brake...e-pads-65.html

Rear Evo IX= http://www.essexparts.com/shop/brake...e-pads-59.html

AP Racing fluid is extremely popular in professional motorsports, and they have a wide range of options to fit many budgets:http://www.essexparts.com/shop/brake-fluid.html

For your application, AP Racing Super 600 would probably be ideal.

If you want to spend less, AP DOT5.1 will still be much better than what you have in the car now.

When you get to the event...check your ego at the door and just have some fun out there!
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 08:21 AM
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You guys have been great! Thanks for the info and if anybody is doing a trackday here in the northeast lmk and maybe we can meet up!
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by EriCS
I have ferodos 2500 on now why is it that most are saying there not good enough? I think I am gonnna need a new set so what should I get or should I stick with ferodos or upgrade to a more track pad and use these as a dd pad until there done?
ds2500's will be fine
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by delongedoug
Drivetrain fluids are fine. Low boost is a good idea as well. $510 isn't crazy for 2 days but $300 for one is pretty high.
just lowing your boost probably isn't a good idea, it can move you into load cells that you were'nt necessarily tuned for. Its much better to just spike your tank with 5 gallons of 100 oct
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 08:37 AM
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You guys have been great! Thanks for the info and if anybody is doing a trackday here in the northeast lmk and maybe we can meet up!
If it's the NASA NJMP event on 29-30 of May then I'll see you there. I'll have a silver expedition pulling a black open trailer with my red/black lancer on it. This will be my first time at NJMP so I may look a bit "green" when it comes to figuring out the paddock so don't be surprised to find me somewhere strange.

I'll be heading up Friday so I'll probably drop the car and trailer off Friday night and then go hit the hotel. I'm bringing the wife and my twin 2 year olds.

(If anyone has any hints on NJMP as to where to paddock, etc. please let me know)

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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 09:10 AM
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Haven't figured out if I am going to attend at the end of may or beginning of June? I think BMW association has an event June 7-8. Its only around 360 or so for 2 days. Its not definate but the sooner the better!
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by justboosted02
just lowing your boost probably isn't a good idea, it can move you into load cells that you were'nt necessarily tuned for. Its much better to just spike your tank with 5 gallons of 100 oct
I will have to talk to my tuner and see if its a bad idea. Running at full boost is too much as I am at 400whp on stock Turbo right now. I will maybe have him give me a second map.
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