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inside me like it too, since here is where the BS stops. If you think you are that good, and rally guys they are what they are, then here is the opportunity to "put your money where your mouth is ", not just talk . AAANd i am sure you know what i am talking about. 
inside me like it too, since here is where the BS stops. If you think you are that good, and rally guys they are what they are, then here is the opportunity to "put your money where your mouth is ", not just talk . AAANd i am sure you know what i am talking about. Personally, the reason I've been able to be as involved/committed in hillclimbs (and rallys soon) is because of the team aspect of the racing. If it weren't for my wife being excited about this stuff and riding shotgun, I'd still be knocking down cones in a parking lot.
Dave
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Hillclimb is not rally. In hillclimbs the drivers get to preview the roads and get multiple shots to go fast. In rally with cumulative scoring, you only get one shot at each stage time so the pressure is there to knock it out of the park.
Our our local all dirt hillclimb series doesn't require them either. The reason that is allowed in the CHCA series is that due to the elevation and steep grades, the speeds reached in unrestricted rally cars is still lower than speeds seen at rally events.
I thought MWHC required restrictors? I looked at running the event, but the restrictor rule and the date conflict with PP kept me here in Colorado.
NASA and SCCA seem to be more flexible, possibly stemming from their expertise in "closed circuit racing." I don't see Rally America lifting the restrictor ban any time soon. It really comes down to what the insurance companies will allow, and getting them to sign off on something that flies in the face of worldwide precedence doesn't seem likely.
Dave
Our our local all dirt hillclimb series doesn't require them either. The reason that is allowed in the CHCA series is that due to the elevation and steep grades, the speeds reached in unrestricted rally cars is still lower than speeds seen at rally events.
I thought MWHC required restrictors? I looked at running the event, but the restrictor rule and the date conflict with PP kept me here in Colorado.
NASA and SCCA seem to be more flexible, possibly stemming from their expertise in "closed circuit racing." I don't see Rally America lifting the restrictor ban any time soon. It really comes down to what the insurance companies will allow, and getting them to sign off on something that flies in the face of worldwide precedence doesn't seem likely.
Dave
I did run 34 mm restrictor at MWHC. I think the awd car had to have a 40mm....
Any way never ever before with my rally car reached the 98mph on stage , with a new engine i did at MWHC . I am sooo happy.
Rally in the US was run by the SCCA for many years. Rally america is what took over from them.
Yes a 40mm restrictor was required at Mt Washington. I"d be fine running that, since i have one.
Being serious here. I think i will end up just buying a passenger seat and having a co-driver. I have a friend that wants to do this very bad. So, i might as well take all the help i can.
Yes a 40mm restrictor was required at Mt Washington. I"d be fine running that, since i have one.
Being serious here. I think i will end up just buying a passenger seat and having a co-driver. I have a friend that wants to do this very bad. So, i might as well take all the help i can.
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You lost me here. Are you getting at the fact that many internet rally spectators talk trash about how slow someone took a corner and how they could do it better?
Personally, the reason I've been able to be as involved/committed in hillclimbs (and rallys soon) is because of the team aspect of the racing. If it weren't for my wife being excited about this stuff and riding shotgun, I'd still be knocking down cones in a parking lot.
Dave
Personally, the reason I've been able to be as involved/committed in hillclimbs (and rallys soon) is because of the team aspect of the racing. If it weren't for my wife being excited about this stuff and riding shotgun, I'd still be knocking down cones in a parking lot.
Dave
second:
here is a same thing. i do love that fact it is a team sport. And most certainly i could not have do this without my wife. In or out of the car.
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Rally in the US was run by the SCCA for many years.
Yes a 40mm restrictor was required at Mt Washington. I"d be fine running that, since i have one.
Being serious here. I think i will end up just buying a passenger seat and having a co-driver. I have a friend that wants to do this very bad. So, i might as well take all the help i can.
Yes a 40mm restrictor was required at Mt Washington. I"d be fine running that, since i have one.
Being serious here. I think i will end up just buying a passenger seat and having a co-driver. I have a friend that wants to do this very bad. So, i might as well take all the help i can.
As much as we know about things.
Dave
The death of Subaru driver Mark Lovell was the straw that broke the camels back on that one i believe. That was the last year SCCA ran the ProRally program.
There have been a few deaths under SCCA sanction over the years in Hillclimbing.
There have been a few deaths under SCCA sanction over the years in Hillclimbing.
I would be interested in making it out to a solo rally event if it worked with my schedule. Although I would not want to change my set up for just one race... And I have no Idea where my car would sit.
I just like the idea of racing in different series!
I just like the idea of racing in different series!
Sucks that something so fun can also be so dangerous.
Dave
Deep down we all want to go drive cool public roads really fast, legally right?
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Nothing new there, and there will be no rule can stop that. As soon as they find the rule which will prevent death, that day when you can change the name racing to parade ...
death will be always around us as long as we are racing.
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Yep, and i'm right in the middle of those 3. 
I always like Gilles Panizzi, tarmac king!
I think that they are trying to get any kind of car to come out to race.. In theory i could just throw on my stock suspension, take off the aero stuff and run in the dirt right?
We are talking about 2 things here. NASA is trying their thing and Rally New York is something else that is being talked about. The talk is about getting the cars that ran at Mt washington and the NE hillclimbs to be able to compete so they can fatten the fields. (You don't need a full rally spec cage to run either of those hills). This just all seems to be happening at the same time. It's obviously a call that things need to change on the club level. And from looking at the numbers of entries at some of the events. It really could use some help.
And if we get more people that want to tarmac rally. We can have more of them!
I always like Gilles Panizzi, tarmac king!I think that they are trying to get any kind of car to come out to race.
. In theory i could just throw on my stock suspension, take off the aero stuff and run in the dirt right? We are talking about 2 things here. NASA is trying their thing and Rally New York is something else that is being talked about. The talk is about getting the cars that ran at Mt washington and the NE hillclimbs to be able to compete so they can fatten the fields. (You don't need a full rally spec cage to run either of those hills). This just all seems to be happening at the same time. It's obviously a call that things need to change on the club level. And from looking at the numbers of entries at some of the events. It really could use some help.
And if we get more people that want to tarmac rally. We can have more of them!
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