EVOizmm

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Does it have a higher tow rating from the increase in power?

4cdndctn

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Rob just broke out his good English for you. Respect.

EVOizmm

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hey this was a serious question!

4cdndctn

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I know . Many tow vehicles can have forced induction added with no formal increase in towing capacity which is heavily weighted on variables which aren't power related (frame design, brake design, wheel base, weight, etc...). Not to mention, many of the capacities in the states are reduced by lawyers anyway; and don't get me started on how lawyers cause a screw up in tongue weight. In the states, an Audi Allroad is not considered a tow vehicle really, you should see what they tow with them in Europe! Anyway, there's a difference in capacities and abilities. Add forced induction with proper cooling and while the S/C is parasitic, you can more safely enter the highway, climb a hill, pass, etc. I would personally sacrafice a little mileage for a little power when towing. The first time you're towing some significant weight and can't make a pass because your tow vehicle is out of breath, you'll remember forced induction would help you breathe better. This issue caused me to sell my N/A Tahoe tow rig and by a turbo diesel. Now the hill my Tahoe used to hunt between 1st and 2nd in, I climb easily in 4th.

Robevo RS

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tow rating is not based on power. Tow rating is based on the towing vehicle weight , struction , brakes etc. Add power will not raise your towing rate. Makes the towing easier and safer for passing etc.

EVOizmm

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This has been my point with all this power talk. I dont feel power is really needed unless we're talking about pulling a car with a ford ranger.

I'm not new to pulling a trailer. I've driven cross country a few times now pulling a trailer. I've pulled using a half ton truck as well as a big 2010 crew cab ram diesel.

I do agree, if i were making 1000 mile trips on a weekly basis, i would go for something nice and easy to pull with. But for doing a 200-300 mile hauls 5 times a year, something less powerfull is just fine by me.

Robevo RS

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so why did you ask, when you know better anyway?

Robevo RS

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i am flattered ...

DaveK

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JDavenport

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My former boss and good friend had an 03 3/4 ton Dodge, crew cab 5.9 Cummins. He had a 38 ft camper trailer and mileage took a pretty good hit with it. But with a flatbed and moderate load (much less wind resistance) mid to upper teens MPG were normal. As several have mentioned, I think part of this is because a 6000 lb load seemed almost non-existant behind it. You had to turn around and look to make sure the trailer was still there.

I have also heard that these early 2000's Cummins were the best on MPG. His 03 had no cats from the factory.

I will also note what Dave said about 1-ton duallys. He traded his in on a 1-ton Dodge dually beacuse the dually is much more stable with that big camper behind it. Overkill for most people, but it is a more stable platform.

LRM1981

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Here's my rig - 2008 Dodge 2500 w/ 6.7 Cummins turbo diesel. 5" TBE, all emissions BS deleted, and I usually run the programer on the 60hp tune, although it goes all the way up to 175hp. I Get about 17-18mpg while towing my Evo. Definitely overkill in the power department, but it's nice having that low end torque when you want it! You're definitely going to pay a huge premium buying a diesel truck vs. a gasser...and of course with fuel prices the way they are, combined with a 35 gallon tank, it hurts at the pump.

targa ten

Most boring tow rigs thread ever!

We need the guy from the UK who towed his STI gravel rally car with his STI street car.True story.And if he needed parts during a rally he would rob it off the street car to keep going.

In 2010 I co-drove at Targa NL for a guy from the UK orginally who towed a MK1 Escort from Ont. to Newfoundland with a VW camper! He said it wasn't too bad until he hit the hills,and winds here in Newfoundland

In the theme of that I'm preparing my 1962 Series2a for tow duty.(she is almost finished)

Even with the wimpy stock 4 cylinder packing 80HP she is rated,from Land Rover, to tow 4000LBS.The UK guys haul crazy loads behind these rigs......


If you have the right gear ratio,you don't need a lot of HP.

My heaviest load so far has been 2500LBS(payload and trailer)....

4cdndctn

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I get it now. You are looking for answer to 'What's good enough?' In which case, stick to advertised towing capacity, stay stock, and while you don't need any type of supplementary braking system, it's recommended. Personally, I'm not a 'Good enough' kinda guy, not do I think most Evo owners are, and thank goodness guys like Buschur are out there who don't settle for good enough. But someone has to be 'That guy,' and this time it's you. Consider a budget, reliable pick up that's utilitarian and will be good enough all day long.

4cdndctn

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True, and you can get up to 40 just great, then stay there. ;p

targa ten

I guess you mean "If I can get up to 40 MPH"?

If so,lucky for me Land Rover's 2.5L 4 cylinder direct injection turbo diesel drops right in the engine bay(even uses the 1960's engine mounts)and bolts right up to the gearbox.

Still not enough?

Even the Discovery's V8 is supposed to drop in and bolt up.

The problem then will be how long the rest of the powertrain lasts!