we can just as easily make a better power curve then they can. low end toque on E85 puts us at 400-420ftlb, tapering boost off to maintain the max allowed WHP for several thousand RPM. if they make 500ftlb at 1000rpm i could care less, the whp is limited to what i have too so they wont be any faster.

 

i was showing how the stock and baffled oil pans both werent that great. the AMS we did some laps at another track and didn't even dip (although we werent driving as hard).

we don't have fuel starvation issues with the stock tank. we only run surge tanks on the evo X, and that will 100% cure any starvation issues if you have any.

 

Image from Kiggly Racing.

 

gotcha my fault. i thought maybe the combination of the baffled stocker + kiggly might have been "okay" but maybe not -

 

i would love to run E85 but it's not an option for me. i drive my car to and from track and E85 is not available anywhere near the track. that means i would have to bring 50+ gallons with me for the weekend. if you use a small turbo for low end torque, then you loose top end power.

if vettes weight about the same as my car, and hp is limited to 360 whp (dyno jet), but they get to that max power level sooner than i can and stay close to it through out the rpm range. although the dyno graph does have to show a drop of hp from peak power till red line.

it's not just the power that makes the vettes more superior to the evo. better aero dynamics, better suspension geometry, better weight distribution. the only advantage we have is awd and can put the power down sooner. but at 360 whp limit, they don't really issues with putting power down on A6.

[end rant]

 

we get to have a bit more power:weight being 4 door. that helps. I think we have a big of an advantage on the smaller, tighter tracks. But the high speed tracks they've got the advantage.

Here is my dyno, running stock IX turbo on e85. was trying to stay under 400whp.

 

Looking to start tracking my '11 GSR next spring with NASA, and this thread scares the hell out of me. How huge of an issue is oil starvation for these cars?

 

i see oil pressure drop to as low as 40 psi before i install the Kiggly HLA. after installing the Kiggly, pressure usually doesn't drop below 60 psi and on shorter right hand turns it doesn't drop at all where it used to drop.

there's a lot of people that track their car on stock oil pan and no Kiggly for years without any issues. i ran my car for over 1.5 year (50+ track days) on rcomp tires before i installed the Kiggly a couple months ago.

you can see in this video how the pressure drop during right hand turns. the oil gauge is the middle one. set the video to HD so you can see the needle move.

 

Pretty compelling vid right there. I checked out the Kiggly - damn cheap for some peace of mind. Added to the build list now - thanks for the tip!

BTW, great video

 

Bump for updates.

 

updates!

already ordered the AMS oil pans. have most of them put on cars already around here. AMS has set pricing on it, so no group buy is needed if you want one.

also already ordered all the whiteline stuff, but i can order then for anyone anytime.

i made a purchase of 5 sets of AST 5200 coilovers. i will have 1 available if someone wants a set. the other 4 are spoken for. These are the external resevoir, double adjustable race shocks. We are going to have one test set custom valved for our NASA TT cars, and then have the rest valved the same way once we are happy. we are getting away from the street/track hybrid coilovers such as the KW V3 shocks which didnt have enough spring rate or damping for stiffer springs to make them worth while.

if more people want them, i can get another order going too.

 

I've heard nothing but problems with fitment on those AMS pans. besides the extra oil capacity, is there an advantage to the AMS pans over the stock setup with an accusump? Say for just TT where you're not doing 30min+ sessions. What other alternatives to the AMS pan have you played with?

 

Hi Kevin,

Thanks for the info. I talked to you a month ago about a race car I was looking to buy. Sent you the specs on the IX and my interest to do Time Attack. I'm still trying to decide which car, but know I will be looking forward to meeting you guys soon.

Cool to see the group support.

AA

 

Installing the ams pans is difficult. If you do it wrong, it will leak and that's almost always why people have fitment problems. We've installed so many of them lately that its no longer even difficult to do.

I've tried three different kinds of pans on the track, and the best one was the ams pan. The accusump I haven't used on an evo, but we used them on our fsae car and it was worthless. The volume of oil passing through is so great that the accusump can't do much. The pan design was far more important in our testing then trying to buffer the system for a few tenths of a second.

I haven't tried the kiggly Hla on the track yet but it has merrit so I'm going to give it a try.

 

Great Info!

I'm tempted to put my evo 8 in ST2 for 2013 NASA TT in the NorCal region even though I'm really intimidated by those fast corvettes

One quick question, How does the licensing part work when you have no NASA HPDE event experience. In my case I've done multiple events ranging from advanced groups with open passing to Redline Time Attack events