just make sure you don't start screwing with the setup to make the car "work better" when you have crap tires.

Sounds like you killed the clutch (ACT puck style if i remember correctly). I'd pull the trans and get an exedy twin in there. Just make sure you take a close look at the transmission input shaft splines to make sure they're not screwed up before you put it back together. it only takes about 8 hours to change a clutch...you've got a whole week!

 

Whole week for most people = a month for me. No garage, barely passable mechanic skills, and 50-60 hours a week at work with a 1.5hr one way commute. In retrospect running an *SP car was probably not the smartest idea! LOL


PS - Clutch is an ACT HDSS street clutch (full face organic).

 

ASP/SM cars don't have to be un-reliable. True they aren't stock cars, but keeping on top of things and periodic inspections have kept my cars running with only 1 event ended due to failure (blew up a motor on a go kart track)

 

sounds like a sick day (or 2) is in your future.

 

This above statement really depends on the state of the tires he was on. For two year old tires, if they were maintained properly, they would still have way more grip compare to the latest "street" tires.

Just finished my first event on RS3s after using old Hoosiers for a season and even though Hankooks surprised me with amount of grip they offered, they were no match to the tires I used to have (rears were 5 years old and fronts were 2 years old).

Interesting thing is that running on those tires for the stock EVO seem to be much better than running on Hoosiers, considering that everyone else had to do the same. Somehow, gap that was there next to the S2000 CRs is much smaller...if there at all...

Fedja

 

Don't mean to derail the thread. But dead r-comps are a unique beast all their own. While they may offer lower overall peak grip than fresh street tires. They still exhibit the same high slip angle and tossability they are known for. I've been fooled many times by dead tires over my 10 years of experience. It's nice to have local, consistent competition to gauge how far off your tires may be. Like Marshall said, don't make any drastic setup changes to compensate.

Sorry to hear about the car issues. Never fun and the timing is never right. Might be worth looking into some sponsorship help for this.

P.S. You said that you were having problems with spinning the car. I've found that even with an overly loose setup on the rear (before aero) that the car is incredibly easy to pitch and catch, or even predict. Point is, and I mean no offense, if your driving skills aren't up to task, then there may be something really amiss with your setup. Evo's are very forgiving on r-comps.

 

It also depends on the tire used. V710s just take longer to heat up when they age, but when I've had A6's fall off after 80-100 runs, they fall off severely (Same with the one set of Hankook Z214s I tried). I guess I was assuming a 2-3 year old tire would have 150+ runs on even single driving as we can get ~200+ runs each year and go through a couple sets.

I did 2 days on dead hoosiers (was away from home with nothing else to use) and got S* stomped by my usual STR street tire marker (I beat them normally of course, but by how much is one of my gauges).

 

Does FD RX7 has a chance?

 

I think so.

 

Thanks to everyone who chimed in. The car is back together and I'll be able to make the DC Pro after all! Hopefully the Exedy twin disk I put will hold up Good thing I have the 300+ mile trip to break in the clutch.


I appreciate everyone's comments on setup and old tires. To be clear, I wasn't completely changing the car based on old Hoosiers, just shock and tire pressure changes mainly. But the spin issues were definitely mostly a setup issue. The car will have sticker HoHo's for the Pro and then the NJ Tour the following weekend so I'll see how the car does on fresh rubber.


FWIW, the car felt great at the event I blew the clutch, old Hoosiers and all.

 

That is great news Justin!! Good luck down there!

Fedja

 

He's just trolling. Don't humor him.

 

Im confused, is the RX7 not competitive? Its faster in Stock and SM trims but not in SP?

 

According to Andy, the gearing is the issue with the FD. He thinks it doesn't have the grunt out of corners.

 

No, no, I meant Justin was just trolling (who let those STX guys in here?!). I'm sure if built right, with the right nut behind the wheel, the FD could be competitive.