i thought mitsu is already in the WRC... maybe it was rumor but thought mitsu already entered the new rally lancer

 

Never. Daimler Chrysler already has McLaren, no need to bring Mitsu into the fold. Mitsubishi is a subsidiary of Daimler Chrysler in everything but name these days.. when Hakkinen retired he drove a Ralliart prepared Evo 7 in a rally, and Kimi has stated in an interview that he'd like to drive a rally car someday, and that since DC had a 'relationship' with MMC, that it would probably be a mitsubishi.

 

Yes, but they aren't very competitive since the car is brand spanking new and has a few kinks to work out. The reference earlier was to Mitsubishi not being very competitive in the WRC. I say give it time, no one goes from a year off to a championship contender in 3 races. They are scoring points, which is more than I could say about Hyundai or Skoda when they were full teams.

 

they can have all the time they want, they just dont have the money. They're using mechanical diffs, vs most everyone else using electronic. Peugot has what.. 3 or 4 gears? They're making so much tq. Some teams have 7? Mitsubishi needs some cash flow to be current. I dont see that happening real soon.

Anyone else notice the tail lights on the back of the WRC car looks more like the regular lancer, not the Evo? I'm sure this has been posted already..

 

Yeah, the reason is because the Lancer WRC is not homologated as an Evo, but as a standard lancer. WRC homologation rules are extremely lax but one of the things they do have to conform to is the production taillight assemblies. Same reason the Focus WRC 03 is based on the US production Focus- the bumpers stick out further so they used it as the basis for FIA homologation to get a better aero package on the car. While in practice the car is much closer to an Evo than to a Lancer, they homologated it as a Lancer.

 

kinda makes it unnecessary to keep producing it for WRC then?
And it looks like the F1 season is going to be a boring one... I'd really like to see Montoya shine.

 

It hasn't been necessary to produce the Evo for WRC since the Evo VI, since that was the last year they homologated as Group A in the WRC. Before then, with the VI and earlier, Mitsubishi chose to homologate as GrpA which has more stringent homologation requirements. This was fine, as they were winning, but as the other teams were able to better take advantage of the WRC regulations and with the VII they decided to homologate it as a WRC car. Group A cars have many production similarities, from general suspension design to the 2.0L Turbo formula that is so similar to today. As the 4wd production turbo cars started to disappear, WRC rules were created to allow manufacturers like Peugeot and Ford (who have no appropriate production cars for Grp A) to compete in the WRC. The VII was not competitive as a WRC car since it was still very similar to the production model. The Lancer WRC is Mitsu's first effort at a true WRC class vehicle.

Here's a link that explains everything far better than I could.
http://www.rallycars.com/Cars/Cars_Background4.html

 

Interesting site. Thanks. (Although they seem to have forgotten Carlos Sainz's 1990 championship in the ST-165).

But the line up in http://www.rallycars.com/Cars/Homologation.html shows why I bemoan the loss of homologation specials. That's a "who's who" list of dang fine automobiles.

I've owned or considered four or five of the ones listed, and would be inclined to add a couple more, if the prices weren't so astronomical, now. (Stratos, 288GTO).

 

Wanna be punched in the chest with each shift from acceleration forces and black out from braking??

http://sports.yahoo.com/cart/news?sl...v=st&type=lgns


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The defending IRL champion also was amazed at the vast array of gadgets in the ****pit of the Formula One car.

"It's a mess," Dixon said. "There is crap everywhere. There are probably 40 buttons on the wheel. It's out of control.

"The procedures just to get out of the pits are different. You have to turn the car on, then the ignition on, then turn the engine over, then turn the engine on, then turn the gearbox on, then select first gear, put the clutch in, calibrate the clutch - there are so many procedures, just to get out is a pain."

The real pain for Dixon came in his neck, where the driver experienced the tremendous G forces in an F1 car, with its tremendous acceleration, responsive corner and rapid deceleration when he applied the brakes.

"It's huge," Dixon said. "I lasted about three runs before my neck was done. You just can't hold it up. The acceleration isn't too bad because your head is resting most of the time, but the G forces turning and the braking in the braking zone, your head goes down and you have to slowly bring it up. The forces are way more than what we get.

"To shift every time, it's like somebody punching you. It's very strange. I thought it would be a little smoother with the shift. The engine is so nice with the horsepower, but whenever you change gears, it's like being punched in the chest."

Dixon loved the resonant tone of the BMW engine, saying, "It sounds very cool on the downshifts and the braking."

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Can we not say ****pit? Whats up with the "****pit"?

Best wishes,
f86sabre


Edit:
Ah, I see the post was auto edited. That's too funny.

 

Well even on a new an very errr bland track.. It looks to be the same ole, same ole.. 19 hours and counting..

http://www.formula1.com/race/result/716/16.html