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Old Dec 1, 2015 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Construct
Porsche drivers just want wider tires like everyone else, but they need the width more in the front than the back.

And I agree that's unlikely to pass, and definitely wouldn't apply to AWD even if it did.
Don't Porsche's usually have wider tires in the rear and narrower in the front being mid/rear engine and all? I highly doubt it would pass but stranger things have happened, like the C5 not getting kicked out of BS. If they want a non-square setup they can just go narrower than 255 on the side they want, would be the counter argument I would assume.
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Old Dec 2, 2015 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Construct
Completely crazy idea: Some of the Porsche drivers didn't like the idea of 255s all around and suggested writing letters to make the tire width limit an average of the front and rear. If such a proposal went into effect and in the completely, totally unlikely event that it also applied to AWD cars, 285/30R18 up front and 245/40R17 in the rear would be an interesting combo. The outside diameters are almost identical (one half revolution per mile difference) so it could theoretically work
I want to say that Daddio used that setup back in 2007 in SM. I could be wrong though.
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Old Dec 2, 2015 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by RJones
I want to say that Daddio used that setup back in 2007 in SM. I could be wrong though.
You are not wrong! He was one of the guys who used that setup. I don't think it looks bad either! Lots of FWD guys would have great success with such a combo. For our type of AWD cars with 60% of weight in the front, you could increase the grip to get close between the front and rear, but front will always have to do more work, so having a bit more tire on that end would not hurt at all!
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Old Dec 2, 2015 | 07:49 AM
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Ive always thought a 315/275 setup would be great on an Evo for balance considering the weight distribution. The downside, front tires generally clean up OPR and rears pick it up. I use rotating tires as a means to clean that up along with getting even wear.
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Old Dec 2, 2015 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Dallas J
Ive always thought a 315/275 setup would be great on an Evo for balance considering the weight distribution. The downside, front tires generally clean up OPR and rears pick it up. I use rotating tires as a means to clean that up along with getting even wear.
Since the front tires work much harder and generate much more heat that helps cleaning the OPR, smaller rear might size might help to elevate rear temps as well, so you might end up with less on both end.

On the other hand, when I was running in SM (even in ESP trim), rears were working much harder and temps were pretty even between fronts and rears. I think you have to set-up the car to use both ends the best way possible...higher HP level amplifies this even more!
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Old Dec 2, 2015 | 09:44 AM
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there is a reason no evo's run staggered tire sizes even though it has been tried...

it sucks.

It works on FWD cars because they aren't trying to put any power down with their rear tires.
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Old Dec 2, 2015 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by griceiv
there is a reason no evo's run staggered tire sizes even though it has been tried...

it sucks.

It works on FWD cars because they aren't trying to put any power down with their rear tires.

My assumption on this is with excessive rear grip, you can do more things to help front grip. Moving some of that front weight transfer to the rear.


Either way, being able to rotate tires is pretty critical to me.
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Old Dec 2, 2015 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Dallas J
My assumption on this is with excessive rear grip, you can do more things to help front grip. Moving some of that front weight transfer to the rear.


Either way, being able to rotate tires is pretty critical to me.
you can (and should) do that but it only works up until the inside rear tire lifts off the ground. on a FWD car you still struggle to get heat in the rear tires even after making them carry as much load as possible so making them smaller helps. evo's don't struggle to get heat in the rear tires.

I like rotating tires also but if the car was faster with a staggered setup I would definitely do it.
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Old Dec 6, 2015 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RJones
I want to say that Daddio used that setup back in 2007 in SM. I could be wrong though.
I thought it was 2005? He and Tunnel ran it that way, didn't work. I think I saw Tunnel spin it in the slalom. Daddio may have given Bob a codrive due to the bmw breaking down.
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Old Dec 8, 2015 | 08:39 AM
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Haha. I said I could be wrong. All I know is it was before I started autocrossing.
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Old Dec 10, 2015 | 09:01 AM
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I thought it was 2005? He and Tunnel ran it that way, didn't work. I think I saw Tunnel spin it in the slalom. Daddio may have given Bob a codrive due to the bmw breaking down.
Having driven an ASP car with 285s, there's no way the car would be better with less tire in the rear.
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Old Dec 18, 2015 | 06:54 PM
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From: Why do they always call the Evo the Dark Side?
Page 24.. looks like 265s are official.
http://cdn.growassets.net/user_files...pdf?1450468301
14.3 TIRES
Tires must meet the eligibility requirements of the Street category with the
following additional restrictions:
Tires shall have a section width up to and including the following:
STF, STS, STR (AWD) – 225 mm
STX, STU (AWD) – 245 mm
STR (2WD), STU (2WD, Mid-Engine, Rear- Engine) – 255 mm
STX (2WD), STU (AWD) – 265 mm
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Old Dec 19, 2015 | 10:00 PM
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Page 24.. looks like 265s are official.
http://cdn.growassets.net/user_files...pdf?1450468301
Anybody running in STU next season with an Evo X? I was running 245 on the stock 18x8.5's, but with the new rules, I'm thinking of getting wider wheels. I'm a bit unsure of 9" or 9.5" and 255 vs 265. Has anybody tested on the X? I don't want to roll fenders. Thanks for the help.
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Old Dec 20, 2015 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr.Chris
Anybody running in STU next season with an Evo X? I was running 245 on the stock 18x8.5's, but with the new rules, I'm thinking of getting wider wheels. I'm a bit unsure of 9" or 9.5" and 255 vs 265. Has anybody tested on the X? I don't want to roll fenders. Thanks for the help.
I'm not - but I think the rules change definitely puts it a lot closer to being in the mix.
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Old Dec 21, 2015 | 06:58 AM
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yeah definitely makes the Xs more viable IMO
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