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Old May 26, 2016 | 02:43 PM
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Old May 26, 2016 | 02:54 PM
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Wait a minute Im an idiot I was thinking coolant not oil, lol.

Where is your sensor mounted? Of course added capacity means more time to warm up but not sure the heavier oil matters much but what do I know
It's mounted above the drain. the bung goes down as far we could get it. I'll be moving it soon and it will be next to the drain plug from now on, just in case that's my problem.


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Old May 26, 2016 | 03:13 PM
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I don't think that's the issue, the oil is at least that high most of the time the engine is running.
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Old May 26, 2016 | 03:42 PM
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I don't think that's the issue, the oil is at least that high most of the time the engine is running.
I assume so, too. I can drive 20mins to GFs house (freeway) and not see it budge until I do some pulls. While tuning, I see 200°+. I wonder if the therm is stuck open, sometimes. Its acting like the Tomei thermostat.
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Old May 26, 2016 | 04:20 PM
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Could be. You def don't want the oil below 160* for extended periods of time, unless it's actually warming up of course lol
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Old May 26, 2016 | 04:46 PM
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Could be. You def don't want the oil below 160* for extended periods of time, unless it's actually warming up of course lol
15mins before it starts coming up from 140

once i exit the fwy and cruise around town it comes up. It's really hard to get to 180, though. This is still in 75-80* weather.

I think I'll swap thermostats, just to be safe.
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Old May 26, 2016 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by kaj
15mins before it starts coming up from 140

once i exit the fwy and cruise around town it comes up. It's really hard to get to 180, though. This is still in 75-80* weather.

I think I'll swap thermostats, just to be safe.
Stop driving like a b#tch?

But yea, your tstat could be stuck open.
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Old May 26, 2016 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
Stop driving like a b#tch?

But yea, your tstat could be stuck open.
Hey! She ain't going anywhere. I'm cruising. Bags aired down. Hella cambering.
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Old May 26, 2016 | 10:03 PM
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People used to heat engine oil on camping stoves and pour it in prior to the start .... there is pictures of Carlo Abarth doing that in some book.

Here's a modern solution: http://www.hotheadheater.com/product...-product-info/

Personally I'd be happy to run a synthetic that is not too thick and trying to give the car a run before the start and just consider things consumable ... it will wear a bit quicker.
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Old May 27, 2016 | 07:48 AM
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Hey! She ain't going anywhere. I'm cruising. Bags aired down. Hella cambering.
Seriously though, if you'r ehaving that hard of a time getting the oil up to temp, you may want to go back to a 10w30. Running around on cold (140* is "cold") thick oil is hard on bearings. Try a new tstat and report back. The fact that it gets over 200 when tuning tells me the sensor is in an OK spot.
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Old May 27, 2016 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
Seriously though, if you'r ehaving that hard of a time getting the oil up to temp, you may want to go back to a 10w30. Running around on cold (140* is "cold") thick oil is hard on bearings. Try a new tstat and report back. The fact that it gets over 200 when tuning tells me the sensor is in an OK spot.
I don't normally drive the car around town, I just took it that day because I had to get some tuning logs. I've tried letting it sit and idle for a while, but it just never seems to go up.
I don't wanna use 30w oil at the track, especially with this hot weather coming up. Just so happens the THREE times I decided to drive the car around town were unseasonably cold LOL.
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Old May 27, 2016 | 09:04 AM
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Yeah I'm with him thick oil is thick and being cold only makes things worse. And why a 50w vs a 40w?

When your oil is at 140 what is your coolant temps at? Thats simple to log with evoscan so no excuses!

If your coolant is getting to normal temps then dont bother swapping your tstat and try a thinner oil
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Old May 27, 2016 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by heel2toe
Yeah I'm with him thick oil is thick and being cold only makes things worse. And why a 50w vs a 40w?

When your oil is at 140 what is your coolant temps at? Thats simple to log with evoscan so no excuses!

If your coolant is getting to normal temps then dont bother swapping your tstat and try a thinner oil
FP recommended the oil based on the oil temps I see, 100°+ track days coming up, and how the car is used.
I'm not understanding the correlation between my coolant and oil temps. FWIW, my coolant gets to operating temps like normal. Its just the oil that takes forever.
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Old May 27, 2016 | 11:45 AM
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I think he still thinks we think your coolant tstat is stuck. When we're actually concerns about the oil tstat lol
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Old May 27, 2016 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
I think he still thinks we think your coolant tstat is stuck. When we're actually concerns about the oil tstat lol
Ooooh. Now it makes more sense.
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